Spoilers The boys Season 4 (spoilers)

[Necropolitan]

for the purposes of the story who else exist doesn't matter since Vought International is the evil megacorp

The show has the media reporting on news that's damaging to Vought.

The show shows Vought has no lines it won't cross to increase their bottom line or remove threats to their profits.

If Vought owns the entire media then why would they be reporting news that hurts their brand?

The answer is that the show puts no effort into consistency and just goes for whatever lets them tell the next episode's story, but it's still disappointing.

 

[TwoSix]

The show has the media reporting on news that's damaging to Vought.

The show shows Vought has no lines it won't cross to increase their bottom line or remove threats to their profits.

If Vought owns the entire media then why would they be reporting news that hurts their brand?

The answer is that the show puts no effort into consistency and just goes for whatever lets them tell the next episode's story, but it's still disappointing.

If they show a news program that's damaging to Vought, that it would be fair to assume that at least some of the media is not run by them. If Vought was actually all-powerful, then Singer wouldn't have won the presidency running on an anti-Supe platform.

I think the show has made pretty clear that Vought is extremely powerful, certainly much TOO powerful, especially with its ties to the military and private security, and the amount of Congressional votes it has essentially purchased. But it has also not yet made the country into an out-and-out Supe-run autocracy; that's the threat that seems to be posed for this season and the last season.

 

[Necropolitan]

If they show a news program that's damaging to Vought, that it would be fair to assume that at least some of the media is not run by them. If Vought was actually all-powerful, then Singer wouldn't have won the presidency running on an anti-Supe platform.

I think the show has made pretty clear that Vought is extremely powerful, certainly much TOO powerful, especially with its ties to the military and private security, and the amount of Congressional votes it has essentially purchased. But it has also not yet made the country into an out-and-out Supe-run autocracy; that's the threat that seems to be posed for this season and the last season.

The Boys has no continuity, the writers retcon things from episode to episode.

Vought's an omnipotent megacorp except for when the protagonists need a win.
Public opinion on Vought in-universe doesn't match up to what's established, it just shifts according to the plot.
Homelander can literally hear a pin drop but can't hear Hughie in the vents.
Soldier Boy's blasts can blow away supes with super-toughness because they strip away their powers but Queen Maev survived both the blast and falling out of a skyscraper all the way to the ground.
Black Noir can take IEDs going off in his face and heal from a supe with explosive powers using them while he's standing next to him but Homelander shoving an arm into his torso is enough to kill him.
A-Train's speed varies depending on whether or not he should be able to show up to someplace/catch someone fast enough.
Soldier Boy fought the Nazis right up until the show's writers decided that he didn't actually fight in WWII.
Tek-Knight is a true crime star who somehow is also an action supe who crippled a person while rescuing them.
Homelander wouldn't have saved Teddy Stilwell but the writers didn't want Butcher to have killed a kid so they gave Teddy teleportation powers to get him out of the house before it exploded.

I've accepted that the writers are writing the show by the seat of their pants, if I wasn't willing to accept the constant changes (and the gore, scatological humor, etc.) I wouldn't watch the show.

 

[TwoSix]

The Boys has no continuity, the writers retcon things from episode to episode.

Vought's an omnipotent megacorp except for when the protagonists need a win.
Public opinion on Vought in-universe doesn't match up to what's established, it just shifts according to the plot.
Homelander can literally hear a pin drop but can't hear Hughie in the vents.
Soldier Boy's blasts can blow away supes with super-toughness because they strip away their powers but Queen Maev survived both the blast and falling out of a skyscraper all the way to the ground.
Black Noir can take IEDs going off in his face and heal from a supe with explosive powers using them while he's standing next to him but Homelander shoving an arm into his torso is enough to kill him.
A-Train's speed varies depending on whether or not he should be able to show up to someplace/catch someone fast enough.
Soldier Boy fought the Nazis right up until the show's writers decided that he didn't actually fight in WWII.
Tek-Knight is a true crime star who somehow is also an action supe who crippled a person while rescuing them.
Homelander wouldn't have saved Teddy Stilwell but the writers didn't want Butcher to have killed a kid so they gave Teddy teleportation powers to get him out of the house before it exploded.

I've accepted that the writers are writing the show by the seat of their pants, if I wasn't willing to accept the constant changes (and the gore, scatological humor, etc.) I wouldn't watch the show.

As someone who places little to no value on "continuity", I couldn't even tell you if I remember any of those details or not. I learned a long time ago that looking for "plot holes" is actively detrimental to my enjoyment of things.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

The Boys has no continuity, the writers retcon things from episode to episode.

Vought's an omnipotent megacorp except for when the protagonists need a win.
Public opinion on Vought in-universe doesn't match up to what's established, it just shifts according to the plot.
Homelander can literally hear a pin drop but can't hear Hughie in the vents.
Soldier Boy's blasts can blow away supes with super-toughness because they strip away their powers but Queen Maev survived both the blast and falling out of a skyscraper all the way to the ground.
Black Noir can take IEDs going off in his face and heal from a supe with explosive powers using them while he's standing next to him but Homelander shoving an arm into his torso is enough to kill him.
A-Train's speed varies depending on whether or not he should be able to show up to someplace/catch someone fast enough.
Soldier Boy fought the Nazis right up until the show's writers decided that he didn't actually fight in WWII.
Tek-Knight is a true crime star who somehow is also an action supe who crippled a person while rescuing them.
Homelander wouldn't have saved Teddy Stilwell but the writers didn't want Butcher to have killed a kid so they gave Teddy teleportation powers to get him out of the house before it exploded.

I've accepted that the writers are writing the show by the seat of their pants, if I wasn't willing to accept the constant changes (and the gore, scatological humor, etc.) I wouldn't watch the show.

I would argue that each and every one of those points also applies to every comic book, even over the course of a four year run. Or over the course of their many runs.

Who's faster: Flash or Superman? It depends on what the writer wants. There are very few constants in superhero fiction, two being the explosion of Krypton and the death of Uncle Ben.

 

[Necropolitan]

I would argue that each and every one of those points also applies to every comic book, even over the course of a four year run. Or over the course of their many runs.

I fully agree.

But The Boys isn't a comic book. It's a television show.

And the writers claim it's not superhero fiction, so why should it get the same excuses as superhero fiction?

Of course The Boys IS superhero fiction. It doesn't deconstruct superheroes, it just has a world where supervillains have the backing of the corporate conspiracy that gave them their powers and the general public are gullible morons.

 

[trappedslider]

So does Vought International own every single media company in the US?

so the question was rhetorical then.

 

[Necropolitan]

so the question was rhetorical then.

No, I wanted an answer, got one, and then moved on to a new topic.

 

[trappedslider]

The answer is that the show puts no effort into consistency and just goes for whatever lets them tell the next episode's story, but it's still disappointing.

No, I wanted an answer, got one, and then moved on to a new topic.

you answered your own question then moved on. It's like a teacher asking a question of the students and then telling the students the answer after a student suggest an answer.

 

[Necropolitan]

you answered your own question then moved on. It's like a teacher asking a question of the students and then telling the students the answer after a student suggest an answer.

No, you're just nitpicking to avoid addressing what I said.

I wasn't even referring to it in that post, I had moved on to the continuity issues, so you're wrong there too.