D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

[OB1]

I think there are two things in play, one is the nostalgia effect on older players, and the second is to teach a new generation of DMs a bit about the history of D&D under the guise of showing how Gygax built his setting. It's there to be inspirational to a new generation of DMs.

 

[Parmandur]

1. There is actually very little real information in this post, other than that Greyhawk will be in the new DMG, and that there will be a map of Greyhawk (the setting, assumedly the Flanaess) and Greyhawk (the City) included.

2. It appears that Greyhawk will be used as the example for a "how to make your own campaign setting" part of the DMG.

That's basically the extent of what is known, ut now they have committed to it being Greyhawk in an interview for Game Informer.

 

[Cordwainer Fish]

Old and out of touch is bad

Someday someone's going to have to explain to me the virtue of a proportional response being new or in touch.

 

[darjr]

Also I hope this opens Greyhawk up for GaryCon!

 

[CleverNickName]

Why not Greyhawk? It's as good a campaign setting as any. I would have personally preferred Mystara, but there's a huge difference between (Stuff I Prefer) and (Stuff That Others Will Buy). I'm sure they counted all the beans, weighed all the options, and then picked the one with the best numbers. They pay a lot closer attention to that sort of thing than I do.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I wonder if they're going to use the Darlene map or at least something stylistically similar?

 

[Parmandur]

Also I hope this opens Greyhawk up for GaryCon!

It would be great if Luke Gygax could publish stuff on DMsGuild like Ed Greenwood has.

 

[Parmandur]

I wonder if they're going to use the Darlene map or at least something stylistically similar?

Almost certainly a new map, I would think, but also probavly one that evokes the best of Darlenes work. A Mike Schley Flannaes would be Chef's kiss

 

[SteveC]

I find this really interesting and I know that the nostalgia factor is driving this. That makes sense (50 years!) At the same time, the reason the Forgotten Realms has this high-magic, high-powered reputation is because it developed that way over time. It was the world that got more detail, and as time went on, tastes changed to what they are now.

I am playing Shackled City, the old AP done by Paizo for 3E. It's set in Greyhawk. Aside from the maps, there's nothing different from it than what you'd see in the Realms. It has a lot of gonzo stuff like Spellweavers that aren't really in Greyhawk lore. They are seen in more modern D&D.

I guess what I'm saying is the difference between Greyhawk and the Realms is the time at which they were designed. Greyhawk doesn't have Dragon Born, but that's because of the time it was being written. They just weren't around, along with a lot of other stuff we have today.

You definitely can put the kitchen sink setting info from more modern D&D into Greyhawk, but my question is: why? I guess nostalgia, but once you update the game for modern audiences, the nostalgia is just places and names. Greyhawk is a lower-powered and more human-centric game world, or I guess I should say it was. Yes, we will be having a country named Geoff once more but we'll also have Aasimar. How will Greyhawk in 2024 be different from the Realms? Unless it's used as an example of how you can restrict game elements, it just won't.

Before I get my grognard badge out, I should point out that I like the more modern elements of a world, so I'm not lamenting any changes. I guess I just would like to think you can have different kinds of game worlds that don't all have the new shiny.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

The 3e iconic characters were supposedly from Oerth.