cbwjm
Seb-wejem
I can understand that, I think it's a separation of setting and genre for some of the new content.
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What Is A Sith/Sith Post RoS?
- Thread starter Zardnaar
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pukunui
Legend
Really?! When I first watched it, it felt exactly like a Star Wars movie to me. More so than any of the prequels or sequels had. I feel like it really captures the spirit of the OT. It also has a distinct classic WW2 movie vibe (think The Guns of Navarone), which of course was one of the vibes Lucas was going for with his films.
Zardnaar
Legend
Amdor very different vibe. Rogue 1 felt more star wars than a few things.
Scribe
Legend
I'm been thinking a lot about it for a few days, but I'm just not equiped with enough history/lore/knowledge. I watched the main movies, but was so burned out on it all after The Last Jedi and how bad I found the writing, it just felt like a really gross betrayal.
There's just a lot of content out there, and a lot of it seems either conflicting, poor, retconned or flat out dropped, to the point where I'm pretty much thinking its the first 2 Trilogy Movies, and Obi-Wan, and I'm good, I dont need more than that in my personal canon.
The take on the Jedi didnt evolve well, and seems super out of sync with any kind of psychological view of humanity.
pukunui
Legend
Of all the Star Wars shows and movies, I think Andor is the most distinctly different / unique ... but it still does have Star Wars written all over it. I should rewatch it sometime soon. I'm looking forward to season 2. Then I plan to do an Andor + Rogue One marathon.
I've been talking a lot about this in the Acolyte thread. I really am not happy with how the canon portrayal of the Jedi has made them so fundamentally wrong ... it's almost like they're the bad guys now and not the Sith, which is just nuts. And of course Disney didn't allow Luke to create a new Jedi Order. Instead they just had him attempt (and fail) to recreate the fundamentally wrong old one. Same with Leia and the New Republic.
I think Star Trek (including Discovery, which I know not everyone likes) does a much better job of providing flawed characters working for flawed organizations that nevertheless still aspire to be better people building a better future. As much as I love Star Wars, I feel like under Disney's stewardship, it has lost what it was originally all about - hope. Star Trek, however, still has that in spades, and that's really what I need right now: hope for a brighter future in which the better angels of our nature come out to play. Not the bleak "everyone and everything is flawed and corrupt and doomed to failure" that has been Star Wars for some time now ...
So to answer @Zardnaar's OP: What I want to see is more Sith who are clearly evil and bad and, no matter how seductive they might seem to the protagonists, the audience can still plainly see that they are the wrong choice. That they don't represent yang to the Jedi's ying or whatever but that they are, as George Lucas once said, like a cancer.
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Scribe
Legend
I mean the Jedi Order seems utterly naughty word at this point to me, and again I hope I missed some kind of retcon, but its almost obviously/intentionally naughty word it just seems like one of the worst readings/understandings of not just Buddhism, Stoicism, or pretty much any kind of meditative practice, but like...humanity in any capacity.
I've been meaning to, I played a bunch of the games but as I look at how much time has passed, well its alarming how old I'm getting.
I remember enjoying KotoR and that was 2003
I've been meaning to, I played a bunch of the games but as I look at how much time has passed, well its alarming how old I'm getting.
I remember enjoying KotoR and that was 2003
Zardnaar
Legend
I'm fine with doomed and no hope occasionally even in SW. They're overdoing it though.
And compare end of RotJ to ST and yeah.
Zardnaar
Legend
I mean the Jedi Order seems utterly naughty word at this point to me, and again I hope I missed some kind of retcon, but its almost obviously/intentionally naughty word it just seems like one of the worst readings/understandings of not just Buddhism, Stoicism, or pretty much any kind of meditative practice, but like...humanity in any capacity.
I've been meaning to, I played a bunch of the games but as I look at how much time has passed, well its alarming how old I'm getting.
I remember enjoying KotoR and that was 2003
I remember liking KotOR as well. That was last year or year before though
Wife started playing the switch remake and Xbox One version has the missing Yavin stiff from my original Xbox disk.
Super Carth for the win.
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pukunui
Legend
Exactly. It's too much. Especially the deconstruction of the Jedi Order -- which I get is partially just because the times they are a-changing and the audience is finding them more fundamentally flawed than they once did, but the way Lucasfilm has been writing them under Disney's purview hasn't helped. If anything, they've just doubled down on it. As much as I liked The Acolyte, for instance, it still portrays the Jedi Order in a pretty bad light.
I know people these days prefer their shades of gray over clear black and white, good and bad, but Star Wars is a space opera. I think it is OK for it to be mostly black and white with Jedi = good and Sith = bad. I don't have any problem with that.
