D&D General There can be only ONE: Bard v. Warlock

[UngeheuerLich]

Is multiclassing allowing? I mean, the bard originally came from the fusion of three classes, Fighter/Druid/Rogue.

That is called ranger nowadays.

 

[Scribe]

The D&D Bard itself is feat tree pretending to be a class.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Way I see it?

Mystic -> Celebrant -> communal magic.
So: Cleric, Bard, Druid (without shapeshifting, more Old Ways/Seer)

Wizard -> Mystic -> magic of the "self" ego.
So: Sage, Psion, Magus (includes shapeshifting and self buffing warrior)

 

[Minigiant]

 

[Horwath]

The D&D Bard itself is feat tree pretending to be a class.

that is every class ever in D&D.

bunch of pre-selected feats, gated behind a class for reasons...

 

[Horwath]

voted warlock as bard is just a profession trying to be it's own class.

if you could exchange sneak attack dice for expertise and or some proficiencies, rogue would be a best solution for a "bard"

 

[Minigiant]

that is every class ever in D&D.

bunch of pre-selected feats, gated behind a class for reasons...

No

The D&D Bard is defined by

1. A basic song buff
2. Copying other classes

Every other class has some aspect that is upscaled to be a class.

The Bard is just a bad druid with skills.

 

[CreamCloud0]

I totally think there is room for a class who's schtick is shapeshifting; I just don't think it is the druid.

2E did it right: druid was just another specialty priest.

agree with the first half, disagree with the latter, druids are their own thing and deserve much more than just being reduced to 'nature preist'

 

[Horwath]

agree with the first half, disagree with the latter, druids are their own thing and deserve much more than just being reduced to 'nature preist'

Don't know about that.
If we talk about FR, I would play cleric of Silvanus and druid of silvanus as the same character.
One can shapeshift other is allowed to wear metal armor

 

[aco175]

given the assumptions listed, I chose warlock- but I like the bard better. Listing the bard as another nature caster when you already have one leaned me into voting for the arcane option.