Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

[MarkB]

Not sure I'll watch season 2. Better than Asoka. Andor is still at the top.

Most of the interesting characters are dead. Not much left to draw me back.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Most of the interesting characters are dead. Not much left to draw me back.

That's the nature of tragedy. Shakespeare had trouble getting Hamlet Part 2 off the ground with only Horatio left alive.

You can either introduce new characters, or do a Tom Stoppard and write about the dead ones.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Not sure I'll watch season 2.

No insult, but if you didn't quit watching Boba Fett halfway through out of sheer appalled-ness, I think you probably will.

But yeah it's a bad retcon if Osha can bleed hers instantly abd Vader cant/didn't.

You have to touch the crystal (or so it seems).

If you watch the scenes involved, you can see that the only reason Osha could "live bleed" her lightsaber read is that the crystal was exposed because the lightsaber had been damaged by being thrown far onto rocky ground. When she put her hand around it, she touched the crystal and it started turning red - this is all literally shown on screen, no interpretation necessary, btw.

So I have no doubt that if Vader or similar touched a khyber crystal, they could potentially "bleed" it to red. Or perhaps they could just by pushing Dark Side energy into it or similar - but Osha certainly touched it whilst being very angry and murderous (and was as surprised as anyone else by the change).

I don't think even Vader could necessarily do it if they couldn't at least see the crystal.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

If khyber crystals bleed, then the Death Star's lasers should be red instead of green after the destruction of Jedha City.

No.

Not if they work the way that is shown here. Why would you think that? Osha's one changes when TOUCHES it whilst being murderous and angry. I don't think Darth Vader is going around caressing the Death Star's crystals, is he?

As an aside, I'm astonished how few people seem to have actually, y'know watched what happened on screen. Is everybody scrolling their phone whilst "watching" TV now like the legends say lol? I sure don't.

 

[MarkB]

No.

Not if they work the way that is shown here. Why would you think that? Osha's one changes when TOUCHES it whilst being murderous and angry. I don't think Darth Vader is going around caressing the Death Star's crystals, is he?

As an aside, I'm astonished how few people seem to have actually, y'know watched what happened on screen. Is everybody scrolling their phone whilst "watching" TV now like the legends say lol? I sure don't.

Nobody knows the rules on this. We're literally seeing it on screen for the first time. You've decided you know exactly how it works based upon the tiniest amount of information, and are now deriding people for not having drawn the exact same conclusions.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

As an aside, I'm astonished how few people seem to have actually, y'know watched what happened on screen. Is everybody scrolling their phone whilst "watching" TV now like the legends say lol? I sure don't.

I have to confess to doing that sometimes. But that’s the thing with modern TV - most of it is pretty undemanding, and is better if you are not paying attention. Seen Midsummer Murders lately?

But I definitely didn’t do that for the Acolyte, I had to give it 100% attention. That’s why I found it such a refreshing change.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Nobody knows the rules on this. We're literally seeing it on screen for the first time. You've decided you know exactly how it works based upon the tiniest amount of information, and are now deriding people for not having drawn the exact same conclusions.

No.

I'm saying people seemingly literally haven't watched a process which is clearly and very intentionally shown on the screen, with a special "down the barrel" shot of the lightsaber showing the crystal as it gets "infected" with red, in the show they're claiming that they watched. And they've made assertions about how the process works which are odds with what we were just shown.

I think the fairest conclusion is not that they're idiots or something, but rather that they weren't paying very much attention (which in the modern age usually comes down to mobile phones), or went to make a cup of tea at that moment or the like.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I have to confess to doing that sometimes. But that’s the thing with modern TV - most of it is pretty undemanding, and is better if you are not paying attention. Seen Midsummer Murders lately.

To be fair I wasn't thinking of crime procedurals, they are absolutely "background noise" to left on during other things and glanced at (sorry Law & Order!).

I also watched a lot of shows this way in the pandemic (like all of Supernatural!).

 

[MarkB]

No.

I'm saying people seemingly literally haven't watched a process which is clearly and very intentionally shown on the screen, with a special "down the barrel" shot of the lightsaber showing the crystal as it gets "infected" with red, in the show they're claiming that they watched.

Which simply shows one way in which it can happen. It doesn't lay down any ground rules or exclude any other circumstances.

 

[Ryujin]

To be fair I wasn't thinking of crime procedurals, they are absolutely "background noise" to left on during other things and glanced at (sorry Law & Order!).

I also watched a lot of shows this way in the pandemic (like all of Supernatural!).

"Law and Order" suffers somewhat less from this if it's being shot in your city and you're trying to recognize landmarks