Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

Kaodi

Hero
For a second while Osha is chocking Sol out they focus on the crystal through the top of the saber. During which you hear a sound. It would seem they were showing an example of the process where a dark sider "bleeds" a kyber crystal and attunes with it. This makes the blade red.
I have never been a particular fan of the idea that red lightsabers are transformed rather than made. But the question is now why does Sol's lightsaber change for Osha when Anakin's never changed in his duel with Obi-Wan?
 

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Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
Of course, that doesn't seem the real reason - the original trilogy, the evil and corruption lost and a new republic and new jedi order would be formed, the idea that the Republic and the Order itself were fundamentally corrupt and needed to die anyway just doesn't seem to be there in the material.
My guess is that this is a fundamental problem I had with both prequels and sequels. That an evil force could overthrow the forces of good and lead to major setbacks I can accept, but that they fundamentally don't work and are deserving or even doomed to fail is a view I just don't like.
Agreed. Throughout the original trilogy, they are fighting and sacrificing to restore the Republic. It's presented as a noble goal, very aspirational. Remember that the full name of the Rebel Alliance is the Alliance to Restore the Republic. If people's lives under the Republic are always just as bad as the Empire (or worse) then they may as well keep the Empire -- they make the spacetrains run on time if nothing else.
Sol was trying to get Mae in his gunsights. I think Bazil was worried he was about to blow her up.
I thought he was trying to line up to hit her engines. Even on the ship he clearly did not want her dead.
 

Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
I have never been a particular fan of the idea that red lightsabers are transformed rather than made. But the question is now why does Sol's lightsaber change for Osha when Anakin's never changed in his duel with Obi-Wan?
Because this (bad, IMO) idea of bleeding khyber crystals only came about in the last couple years.

Edited to add: And Anakin's saber should have changed when he killed the younglings.
 

Scribe

Legend
I wanted to say I 'went down the rabbit hole' but really I just lightly skimmed the surface, on reviews for this, and I'm left wondering really "What is Star Wars at this point."

I'm absolutely not well versed enough to have any kind of deep canonical discussion. I know what Star Wars is, to me, but its a vast vast vast IP, and I feel like the core of that IP is not really agreed upon?
 

Thourne

Hero
I have never been a particular fan of the idea that red lightsabers are transformed rather than made. But the question is now why does Sol's lightsaber change for Osha when Anakin's never changed in his duel with Obi-Wan?
My guess is because he was already attuned to the crystal inside his own saber.
The bleeding process occurs when attuning to a crystal.
To be clear, I am just answering the questions others asked. I neither like or dislike the bleeding thing.
That said the crystals can be cleansed. This is why Ahsoka's sabers are clear/white. She made them from crystals she reclaimed from dark siders and cleansed them.
 

pukunui

Legend
My guess is because he was already attuned to the crystal inside his own saber.
The bleeding process occurs when attuning to a crystal.
There's a bit in Jedi: Survivor that might contradict this. It involves a character who was placed in long-term stasis shortly after turning to the dark side. Upon being released, he bleeds his original lightsaber crystal so it turns from yellow to red. I suppose you could argue that, due to his being in stasis for more than a century, he had to re-attune to his own lightsaber crystal ... otherwise, it suggests that the bleeding process is a deliberate act rather than an automatic one.
 

Thourne

Hero
There's a bit in Jedi: Survivor that might contradict this. It involves a character who was placed in long-term stasis shortly after turning to the dark side. Upon being released, he bleeds his original lightsaber crystal so it turns from yellow to red. I suppose you could argue that, due to his being in stasis for more than a century, he had to re-attune to his own lightsaber crystal ... otherwise, it suggests that the bleeding process is a deliberate act rather than an automatic one.
Haven't played it.
So, thanks for the info.
You may be right about the stasis.
Several things come to mind but it would all be speculation on my part. Mostly, time to do it vs in the midst of a flurry of activities.

Oh I very much believe it is not an automatic occurrence. I'm just not sure Osha realized it was occurring on a conscious level.

*apologies for edits. I kept posting early.
 

pukunui

Legend
Haven't played it.
So, thanks for the info.
No worries!

In short: a High Republic-era Jedi named Dagan Gera gets angry with the Jedi council when they refuse to help him defend his hidden temple from raiders. He betrays them and his best friend and fellow Jedi, Santari Khri. When he turns on her, Khri cuts off his arm and then places him in stasis in a bacta tank. He remains there for over a century before Cal Kestis releases him in his quest to access the hidden place (in hopes that it will serve as a place where Jedi can hide from the Empire and its Inquisitors). As Cal converses with Dagan, the fallen Jedi takes apart his original lightsaber, bleeds the crystal red, then reassembles it and attacks. Come to think of it, this could also just be artistic license as it makes for a dramatic "this dude is actually a bad guy" reveal.

EDIT: Here's the full scene if you want to watch it:
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Not a fan of the bleeding thing either. I wouldn't care to much if it was occasionally on specific types of crystals.

It's also silly as baddies use red all the time (or at least until they bleed it).
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
There's a bit in Jedi: Survivor that might contradict this. It involves a character who was placed in long-term stasis shortly after turning to the dark side. Upon being released, he bleeds his original lightsaber crystal so it turns from yellow to red. I suppose you could argue that, due to his being in stasis for more than a century, he had to re-attune to his own lightsaber crystal ... otherwise, it suggests that the bleeding process is a deliberate act rather than an automatic one.
Another possibility is it has to be a deliberate act unless you are so strong with the force that you can do it unconsciously.
 

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