Converting monsters from Second Edition Monstrous Compendiums

[Cleon]

Extra Force (Sp): X times per day, an undead dragon slayer may alter any evocation spell so that it does an extra 50% of force damage against dragons. For example, a caster level 10 fireball does 10d6 hp of fire damage and 5d6 additional hp of force damage to dragons in the area.

Wouldn't "Evoke Force" make more sense, or even "Evoke Anti-Dragon Force" so it has Dragon in the name?

Hmm "Anti-Dragon Evocation" seems a cleaner wording, though.

Also, how does the extra damage stack with Metamagic?

It either stacks...

[Stacking] Anti-Dragon Evocation (Sp): X times per day, an undead dragon slayer may alter any evocation spell they cast so that it does an extra 50% of force damage against dragons. For example, a caster level 10 fireball does 10d6 hp of fire damage, plus an additional 5d6 points of force damage to dragons. Anti-dragon force damage stacks with Metamagic feats that increase a spell's damage: e.g. a CL 12 Empowered flame strike would do (12d6 increased by 50%) fire damage, plus an additional 9d6 force damage to dragons.

Or it doesn't stack...

[Stacking] Anti-Dragon Evocation (Sp): X times per day, an undead dragon slayer may alter any evocation spell they cast so that it does an extra 50% of force damage against dragons. For example, a caster level 10 fireball does 10d6 hp of fire damage, plus an additional 5d6 points of force damage to dragons. Anti-dragon force damage does not stack with Metamagic feats that increase a spell's damage: e.g. a CL 12 empowered flame strike would do (12d6 increased by 50%) fire damage, plus an additional 6d6 force damage to dragons.

I prefer the Stacking version.

 

[Shade]

I prefer it stack, too.

 

[Cleon]

I prefer it stack, too.

Perhaps we you should stick some of this stuff in the Working Draft so we can see where we are.

 

[freyar]

We all prefer stacking, but it seems we will have to wait for Shade to update homebrews.

Do you have any other ideas for anti-dragon casting abilities? Want to flesh out your scrying idea?

 

[Cleon]

We all prefer stacking, but it seems we will have to wait for Shade to update homebrews.

Do you have any other ideas for anti-dragon casting abilities? Want to flesh out your scrying idea?

How about:

Scry Dragon (Sp): X times per day, the Undead Dragon Slayer can modify any divination spell so it is especially effective against dragons. The spell gains a +1 bonus on caster level checks to overcome a dragon's spell resistance and its range increases by 100%. These adjustments stack with spell augmentations from other sources, such as the Spell Penetration or Enlarge Spell metamagic feats.

A spell modified by scry dragon is only capable of detecting dragons. Thus a modified detect evil spell is able to detect evil dragons to a 120 ft. range, but cannot detect evil creatures that are not dragons. Scry Dragon can only modify divination spells that are capable of detecting dragons or phenomena of a draconic nature. It could not modify locate object (since dragons are not objects), but could modify detect undead or detect thought (to detect an undead dragon or a dragon's thoughts).

 

[freyar]

That looks good!

Here's another one:

Smite Dragon (Su): Once per day, an undead dragon slayer may attempt to smite a dragon with one normal melee attack. She adds her Charisma bonus (if any) to her attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per HD. If the paladin accidentally smites a non-dragon, the smite has no effect, but the ability is still used up for that day.

Want to change the extra damage? Give extra uses per day based on HD?

 

[Cleon]

That looks good!

Here's another one:

Smite Dragon (Su): Once per day, an undead dragon slayer may attempt to smite a dragon with one normal melee attack. She adds her Charisma bonus (if any) to her attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per HD. If the paladin accidentally smites a non-dragon, the smite has no effect, but the ability is still used up for that day.

Want to change the extra damage? Give extra uses per day based on HD?

Didn't we already put some "Smite" type SAs in the draft?

 

[freyar]

I don't see one in the homebrews; we've just talked about it. So, what about the extra damage or extra uses per day?

 

[Cleon]

I don't see one in the homebrews; we've just talked about it. So, what about the extra damage or extra uses per day?

I favour an increased damage approach, since it's the best way to finish off a Dragon before it murderizes the Slayer.

(Murderizing being a technical expression, you understand. )

 

[Shade]

Updated, finally!