D&D 3E/3.5 Converting monsters from Mayfair Games Role Aids product line

[Shade]

Agreed on the proposed skills, and I'd make the cones 30 feet.

Suggested feats: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative, Stealthy

 

[freyar]

Let's go with those.

 

[Cleon]

Agreed on the proposed skills, and I'd make the cones 30 feet.

I was thinking 20-foot, to imitate the original's 5-by-20 cones. I'll go along with 30-foot if you're both keen on it.

I'll Update the skills.

Suggested feats: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative, Stealthy

I wondered about all of those with the exception of Blind-Fight, but they just seemed dull. Problem is, it has little use for most of the more colourful feats.

The only other ideas I could come up with were the usual save-boosting feats an Hostile Mind.

EDIT: It's already got +20 Hide & Move Silently so I don't think it needs Stealthy. How about Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative and either Hostile Mind or Great Fortitude? :ENDEDIT

By the way, since we've stopped them being Incorporeal, should we consider giving it a Strength score?

 

[freyar]

A definite yes on the Str score. Probably nothing special, though, since it's Airy. Maybe 10 or 12.

Let's go with Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative, Hostile Mind.

 

[Cleon]

A definite yes on the Str score. Probably nothing special, though, since it's Airy. Maybe 10 or 12.

Let's go with Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative, Hostile Mind.

I was thinking something like Strength 5-6.

Surely it would be weaker than a average flesh-and-blood creature of its size? It's only a coherent cloud of sand, after all.

If we give it a Strength score wouldn't we need to put something back in its Attack line?

 

[freyar]

Str 6 is good. I was partially looking at the HD.

I don't think we need anything in the attack lines, though. A non-monk human without a manufactured weapon wouldn't have a listed attack either.

 

[Cleon]

Str 6 is good. I was partially looking at the HD.

Strength 6 it is then! Updated

EDIT: Oh, and we might as well go for Alertness, Blind-Fight, Improved Initiative and Hostile Mind for the feats.

I don't think we need anything in the attack lines, though. A non-monk human without a manufactured weapon wouldn't have a listed attack either.

Wouldn't they get Unarmed Strike?

That said, I don't mind the sandman keeping its empty attack line.

 

[freyar]

Hmm, I think that unarmed strike isn't usually listed if it's the usual nonlethal kind. I mean, you don't usually put it on a character sheet or in NPC statblocks for someone with another weapon. And the silver dog doesn't have an attack line either.

 

[Cleon]

Hmm, I think that unarmed strike isn't usually listed if it's the usual nonlethal kind. I mean, you don't usually put it on a character sheet or in NPC statblocks for someone with another weapon. And the silver dog doesn't have an attack line either.

I'm OK leaving it out.

Challenge Rating, Treasure and Advancement?

They don't seem that dangerous, so CR5?

Advancement 9-13 HD (Medium); 14-27 HD (Large)?

Not sure about the treasure - incidental maybe, same as a Monstrous Spider, or perhaps they like gold dust and gems?

 

[freyar]

I'd go with incidental treasure, and I agree on the rest.