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In Ireland they do, in very fine detail. It's required by law.If you go to a restaurant in the United States, they don't list the allergens on every dish.
In Ireland they do, in very fine detail. It's required by law.If you go to a restaurant in the United States, they don't list the allergens on every dish.
You can tell remarkable stories just using "safe for kids" material. You don't need to be edgy to be interesting.That speaks to a different but relevant issue: I've never seen D&D as a kids game, and often kinda shake my head when I see it marketed to kids...not in any puritanical way (I think kids can generally handle a lot more than they're given credit for) but in a this-is-foolishly-limiting-what-you-can-do-with-it way.
By going with the most common ones. Peanuts. shellfish. slavery. rape.Everything that exists is an allergen to someone. Where do you draw the line?
Did we settle anything?I kind of feel like the goalpost are ever shifting. I didn't know we were limiting problematic to cultures only, I thought we were talking about problematic elements included in gaming in a general sense. So it is okay for game companies to include potentially triggering elements in their games. I'm glad we've settled that.
You can indeed, no question there.You can tell remarkable stories just using "safe for kids" material.
However, opening the field to also include edgy and-or "adult" content is just that: opening the field. Fewer restrictions on what you can do-say-create, even if still a long way from "anything goes".ou don't need to be edgy to be interesting.
OK.By going with the most common ones. Peanuts. shellfish. slavery. rape.
It means it's a legitimate area of discussion, criticism, and deciding whether or not to buy/read the product. And had George RR Martin anticipated the complaints and decided not to publish, then it would have been an entirely legitimate decision on his part. He and his publisher felt that the overall story had value enough to out-weigh those criticisms.But does that mean it shouldn't have been made, and it's ok to give the people who made it and the people who like it a hard time, to the point of impuning their character?
Whether it does or doesn't is an evaluation up to the reader. I can certainly imagine a perspective that wouldn't be swayed by the argument because the context that matters isn't the inspiration, it's the perspective and context of the reader that does. And there are a whole lot of potential readers (or viewers for the TV adaptation) whose perspective on slavery is formed much more strongly by the slavery of the last 500-odd years than that of the ancient world a thousand years and more earlier.I am not a huge Game of Thrones Fan, but my understanding is Game of thrones draws inspiration more from the ancient world with its slavery than American, and that it wasn't based on race or anything like that. Which I think makes the white savior issue less applicable.
So it is okay for game companies to include potentially triggering elements in their games. I'm glad we've settled that.
Whether it does or doesn't is an evaluation up to the reader. I can certainly imagine a perspective that wouldn't be swayed by the argument because the context that matters isn't the inspiration, it's the perspective and context of the reader that does. And there are a whole lot of potential readers (or viewers for the TV adaptation) whose perspective on slavery is formed much more strongly by the slavery of the last 500-odd years than that of the ancient world a thousand years and more earlier.
I'm on my phone and so finding it tricky to maneuver and make links to other posts that I'd like to so I'm only, for now, going to reply to this section of your post.Finally, if you lose an aspect of gravitas and authenticity, then OK. You lost one. But there are plenty of others out there without resorting to slavery.
And there are a whole lot of potential readers (or viewers for the TV adaptation) whose perspective on slavery is formed much more strongly by the slavery of the last 500-odd years than that of the ancient world a thousand years and more earlier.