What do you use Chat GPT for?

[Bagpuss]

Reynard, that's your take on my specific words. What I said is closer to my intention than to how you read it.

This is an illustration of the problem autistic people have with communication.

What I said it this:
Sometimes, I find it hard to explain things in a way that others can easily understand ... is especially true for people who
1 aren’t neurodiverse, (is that an insult to neurotypicals?)
2 don’t read as much as I do, (is that an insult to neurotypicals?)
3 or have a smaller vocabulary. (is that an insult to neurotypicals?)

Look at each of those individually and assess if each case specific example is an insult to neurotypicals or if it is an autistic person relaying their communications experiences.

What I did not say, is the use of the word 'dumb'.
I did not say "neurotypical people are just dumb" - you said that and put those words in my mouth.

Yeah but you also summed it up by saying

‘re-write this text, make it easier for low IQ people to understand’

So hopefully you can see why they might also believe you think non-neurodiverse people have a low IQ.

Also you are misquoting yourself you actually said.

people with low and no neurodiveristy who are not as well read as I am and have smaller vocabularies

But you changed it to or when you defended yourself. It is a small but significant difference. The sentence I quoted implies that less neurodiverse people aren't as well read and also have smaller vocabularies. Your defence breaks the link between the three statements. Where as your original post implies that it is because they aren't neurodiverse they read less and have small vocabularies and thus need ChatGPT to dumb things down for them (ie: They are dumb).

 

[Clint_L]

Clint_L, I specified I am high functioning. This does not mean high functioning compared with autistic people. It means high functioning compared with neurotypical people.

High functioning autism used to be called Aspergers syndrome and is typified by average to above average IQ but challenges with reading and responding to social cues that are typical of ASD in general, and often affect communication, as you point out. My point is that you shouldn't assume that the problem with communication is due to a difference in IQ, and it could be read as an unkind assumption. Most people won't appreciate being told that they don't understand you because their vocabulary is too limited or they aren't smart enough.

And there's a good chance that it's not true. As I mentioned, my experience with students with high functioning autism who struggle to communicate is that it's more about syntax than vocabulary. They often have a tendency to use very long sentences with a number of subordinate clauses, so that there is almost a stream of consciousness effect, and this can be hard for other people to follow. Word choice (diction) may also be a factor, and quite probably is if the person is extremely well read, as you seem to be. When I am working on writing with them, we usually start by looking at ways to break up longer sentences and emphasize a very direct, subject-predicate-object structure. This poses a risk, however, of the student losing some of the wonderful uniqueness that makes their writing voice their own, and there is a similar risk posed by using ChatGPT. So it becomes a bit of a struggle to balance clearer communication with personal expression.

But all I'm really suggesting is don't assume folks aren't smart because they are having trouble understanding you. It's potentially hurtful. Or assume it all you want, but maybe not out loud.

 

[HaroldTheHobbit]

All I see from chat gpt etc is a way to not use ones own creativity. I want my brain - with all it’s limitations - to be able to get into creative overdrive when I need it. It’s something I enjoy and don’t want it to wither away or be replaced.

 

[Reynard]

All I see from chat gpt etc is a way to not use ones own creativity. I want my brain - with all it’s limitations - to be able to get into creative overdrive when I need it. It’s something I enjoy and don’t want it to wither away or be replaced.

This displays a misunderstanding of what the tools are good for. "Creative work" is the least valuable use case for ChatGPT and other similar models.

 

[Gnostic Goblin]

this is where neurotypicals do not understand what autism is or how autistic people think
I did NOT say "neurotypicals are dumb" as alleged, to do so suggests it is intended as an insult.
50% of all people have less than average IQ - this is a statistical fact
This means half of all people in the world, half of the people you know, half of all people you will ever meet, have low iq, if 'low iq' can be compared with 'average iq' and 'high iq'
This is NOT an insult. This is simply how life is. It is existentialism.
That is what I was talking about.
Can you see the difference between what I was talking about, and that another person has put words in my mouth to insinuate that I was insulting anybody at all?
What I was talking about was literally the words I was using, with no condescending bias to insult anybody at all.
Autistic people go on the literal words person says, not on assuming there is a subtext and a veiled insult.
That I have to explain this thing, at all...

 

[Gnostic Goblin]

My bad, 48.73% - that margin for 'average' requires recognition too, we can't be ignoring the average folks now, can we

 

[schneeland]

In the meantime, my most common use of ChatGPT is summarizing videos, so when someone posts a - usually lengthy - video about a topic, I can get a first idea about the content and then judge if it's worth looking into it more closely.
I have occasionally also used it for longer texts on forums with a similar intent.

 

[Morrus]

this is where neurotypicals do not understand what autism is or how autistic people think

You'd be surprised how clever many people are, who the people in their lives are, and what they're capable of understanding. The claim that 'neurotypicals' do not understand what autism is is nonsense. Also, some advice? Don't just assume everybody you talk to is a 'neurotypical'. There's a very good chance they're not, but did not choose to share that information with you.

 

[RangerWickett]

Once upon a time I thought Wolfram Alpha was good at taking natural language math problems and answering them, but I tried last night and it was just dumb as a doorknob. So I went to ChatGPT and asked it what would be the weight of a clay tablet that is 1 cubit by 1 cubit by one-fourth cubit. It gave me a range that matched the math I'd already done.

Other than that, I used it during a game session a few months ago when I played a Drizzt knock-off, with prompts like, "In the style of R.A. Salvatore, what would Drizzt Do'Urden say to a witch that just fled from battle by teleporting?" and it would respond with something like, "Your villainous flight shall not save you from the frost-kissed steel of my scimitar's edge."

We had a few chuckles.

I once tried to teach it some backstory of my game to ask it how the plot could progress. All of its ideas were ultra derivative and stupid, completely lacking in understanding of what the story was about and what made it interesting for the players.

 

[Reynard]

I have been playing with Claude.ai a bit. The first thing I did was write out (myself, not Claude) a RPG/Adventure game dialogue tree, upload it, and ask Claude to code it into an actual playable dialoge sequence. That was pretty cool. Then, after a couple iterations, I had it build me an 8 bit scene where you move your Link-esque dude into a hovel and talk to the old guy (using that dialoge tree). That was EXTREMELY cool.

I also had it build me a bespoke die roller for a core mechanic I am working on, as well as analyze probabilities which allowed me to tweak the dice pools etc to get them where I want them.