D&D 5E What comes after the 2025 Monster Manual?

[Stormonu]

which adventures are out of print for 5e? None that I am aware of, other than Lost Mine

Are they still printing the old adventures such as Storm King's Thunder, Out of the Abyss, Princes of the Apocalypse and the like? I would have assumed most of the older modules at this point is just coming from available stock from the original run - that was how it had been done previously to my knowledge. My FLGS only carries the last 4-5 adventure series that I can recall.

 

[TravDoc42]

(Just so you know, there was one back in 3.5E ... Lords of Madness (aboleths, mind flayers, beholders and more), and there was 2Es Illithiad - mind flayers and I, Tyrant - for Beholders)

Good to know, I'll look into those! Thank you!!

 

[mamba]

Are they still printing the old adventures such as Storm King's Thunder, Out of the Abyss, Princes of the Apocalypse and the like? I would have assumed most of the older modules at this point is just coming from available stock from the original run

no idea, makes no practical difference however as they are still readily available.

Amazon has them all stocked, I assume your FLGS just sold out and does not think there is much interest rather than them being unable to have them on offer

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Is there legacy content available for Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat? I'm asking honestly, as I only see Tyranny of Dragons available on Beyond. No differentiation for Curse of Strahd or Curse of Strahd Revamped either (or the Curse of Strahd reissue that came out inbetween the two).

We've already seen them reissue three 5E adventures as it is - Curse of Strahd, the combined/updated Tyranny of Dragons and the expanded-upon Phandelver and Below: The Shattered Obelisk. They have no compunction drawing on old adventures with Tales from the Yawning Portal, Ghosts of Saltmarsh and Tales from the Infinite Staircase. They've remixed old edition adventures with Tomb of Annihilation, Storm King's Thunder, Dungeon of the Mad Mage and Princes of the Apocalypse.

Perhaps one of the easiest ways to make some money for them right now would be to take the older existing 5E adventures that have been out of print for a while and have been well-liked, giving them a new coat of paint and do a couple under the hood tweaks. They've done it a dozen times in the past to different iterations of older modules like Ravenloft, Pharaoh, and the GDQ series and its worked before (even within the same edition!), I don't see why they wouldn't go for it now.

That's the thing - ALL of the 5e Aventures are IN PRINT (more precisely, Horde & Rise are OOP, but Tyranny of Dragons replaced them. The original Starter Set is OOP, but its Adventure contents are in Phandelver).

It's mildly possible that they will update them, as needed, when they need to go back for another run, but I sincerely doubt it. It's more likely that 90% of their Monster Content will be included in the 2024 MM so they won't need to be updated. (From WotC's PoV.)

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Are they still printing the old adventures such as Storm King's Thunder, Out of the Abyss, Princes of the Apocalypse and the like? I would have assumed most of the older modules at this point is just coming from available stock from the original run - that was how it had been done previously to my knowledge. My FLGS only carries the last 4-5 adventure series that I can recall.

No no no - 5e has been NOTHING like previous editions when it comes to that. You are right that many previous editions' Adventures got one-and-done when it comes to printings. 5e is not that. They are long beyond the "original runs" on all but the most recent books. I'd have to check, but I think they're many prints deep at this point. Your FLGS can get ALL of the books if they wanted to. (All of them but the ones I mentioned above).

 

[JEB]

If they don't update the old adventures, and just keep them in print unchanged, the only people that will buy them are people that don't have them yet.

If they do update the old adventures, they will 100% get some people to buy them a second time. Therefore, updating the old adventures means more sales than not updating them.

It's also a lot easier to revise existing material than create it from scratch.

From the point of view of a company trying to sell product, it doesn't seem like a hard decision.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The original Starter Set is OOP, but its Adventure contents are in Phandelver

Well, more or less. The day that they put up Lost Mines as a POD on DMs Guild, I'm grabbing it. The changes made to it for Phandelver and Below are bizarre.

 

[mamba]

If they don't update the old adventures, and just keep them in print unchanged, the only people that will buy them are people that don't have them yet.

that is generally true

If they do update the old adventures, they will 100% get some people to buy them a second time. Therefore, updating the old adventures means more sales than not updating them.

they get some repeat sales, is it worth creating the impression that 2014 and 2024 are not compatible, so all the 2024 players should not buy any of the old adventures and the ones staying with 2014 cannot use the new ones? I doubt it... this is just not worth the squeeze

 

[JEB]

they get some repeat sales, is it worth creating the impression that 2014 and 2024 are not compatible, so all the 2024 players should not buy any of the old adventures and the ones staying with 2014 cannot use the new ones? I doubt it... this is just not worth the squeeze

Say you're new to D&D with 2024, and you see an old adventure on the shelves. It looks pretty neat to you. The 2024 core rulebooks are telling you the old stuff is compatible. You check and there's no sign of an updated version in the works. Why wouldn't you take the new rulebooks at their word, and buy the old adventure?

Later, they do release an update. Some folks might be unhappy, and feel like they made a mistake. But, this new version works better with your 2024 books. And there's new stuff in there, too! Maybe you'll just go ahead and buy it a second time. Just like the 2014-era fans might.

And at no point in this process did Wizards lie. You can use the old stuff with the new rules, more or less. But the new stuff will be marketed as an upgrade. Just like the 2024 core books. And that will probably be enough.

 

[Stormonu]

No no no - 5e has been NOTHING like previous editions when it comes to that. You are right that many previous editions' Adventures got one-and-done when it comes to printings. 5e is not that. They are long beyond the "original runs" on all but the most recent books. I'd have to check, but I think they're many prints deep at this point. Your FLGS can get ALL of the books if they wanted to. (All of them but the ones I mentioned above).

Oh wow, that's unexpected. That's certainly never been done in the previous editions to my knowledge beyond the core books! But there has to be a point if they're doing extra print runs it's going to get asked why they aren't bothering to update outdated sections to the new rules.

(As an aside, I'd love to know what printing they're on for each of the adventure modules - is that tracked in the cover page anymore?)