Versatile Spellcaster feat from Races of the Dragon

[RigaMortus2]

VERSATILE SPELLCASTER
You can use two lower-level spell slots to cast a spell one
level higher.
Prerequisite: Ability to spontaneously cast spells.
Benefit: You can use two spell slots of the same level to cast a spell you know that is one level higher. For example, a sorcerer with this feat can expend two 2nd-level spell slots to cast any 3rd-level spell he knows.

So let's say you were multiclassed Shujenga/Warmage. Could I use two 2nd level warmage spells to cast any 3rd level shujenga spell?

 

[Animal]

woops.. wrong topic.

 

[RigaMortus2]

No comments either way?

 

[Mortis]

I would say that it's meant to be spell slots of the appropriate class, but as it doesn't explictally say that I suppose you could use spell slots from either class.

Regards
Mortis

 

[IcyCool]

Wow, a sorcerer with this feat is almost like a psion.

And after having played a sorcerer recently, I like it.

As to your question, as long as both Shugenja and Warmage are spontaneous casters, I don't see a problem with what you propose.

 

[Thanee]

Quite obviously, you can only use this 'inside' a class, not to use spell slots from one class to power the spells from another.

So... No.

Bye
Thanee

 

[RigaMortus2]

Quite obviously, you can only use this 'inside' a class, not to use spell slots from one class to power the spells from another.

So... No.

Bye
Thanee

If only the wording of the feat supported this...

 

[Mistwell]

Quite obviously, you can only use this 'inside' a class, not to use spell slots from one class to power the spells from another.

So... No.

Bye
Thanee

Generally speaking, when something is obvious, it's evident. Given it's not actually in the feat and hence not evident, I think it's an exageration to say this is "quite obvious".

What you seem to be saying that you assume that is what is meant by the feat, and assumed everyone else assumed the same thing.

I didn't actually assume that from this feat. It seems quite plausible to me that this is intended to cut across all spell slots you have, to ease the ability to be a multi-class spellcaster. Nor do I think that would be unbalancing.

 

[werk]

It seems quite plausible to me that this is intended to cut across all spell slots you have, to ease the ability to be a multi-class spellcaster. Nor do I think that would be unbalancing.

I saw it much the same as Thanee, but you're making me rethink it.

It only works if your caster levels are pretty close, which is a penalty in itself....He can't really exploit anything because he has to trade for a 'spell known' not just anything from the list.

I actually laughed when I read your post, but I'm thinking it might be balanced too. Trading 2:1 is almost enough penalty to make up for anything.

Can anyone come up with a broken example? Everything I'm thinking of is not too bad.

 

[Infiniti2000]

There's a couple of things interesting about this. The first is the extremely poor wording. Note that strictly speaking on the definition of "spontaneous casting", sorcerers do not have the ability to spontaneously cast spells. Only clerics and druids do.

spontaneous casting
The special ability of a cleric to drop a prepared spell (but not a domain spell) to gain a cure or inflict spell of the same level or lower, or of a druid to drop a prepared spell to gain a summon nature's ally spell of the same level or lower. Since the substitution of spells occurs on the spur of the moment, clerics need not prepare their cure or inflict spells in advance, nor do druids need to prepare their summon nature's ally spells in advance

Ignoring that and rewriting it to say "without preparing" the spell ahead of time, then the next point is that "spontaneous casting" is only a prerequisite. The spells slots used need not be from "spontaneous" slots. A wizard/sorcerer, for example, could drop two 2nd-level wizard slots for one 3rd-level wizard slot.

No matter how you slice it, though, I don't think it's broken. It creates a lot of flexibility, but the cost is high. I don't think the added flexibility makes it broken.