D&D 5E Vecna Adventure Next Year and Obilesks *SPOILERS*

[Alzrius]

Doesn’t Vecna have a prison on one of the planes detailed in the original Planescape box? Memory failing here

Citadel Cavitius, on the Quasielemental Plane of Ash, which was originally detailed in WGA4 Vecna Lives!. After he was pulled into Ravenloft (as recounted in Domains of Dread), the citadel was said in The Inner Planes to have been left behind (and revealed that before Vecna took it over, it belonged to Sigil's Doomguard faction as one of their fortresses on the negative quasielemental planes).

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[Dried]

Talking about that do we know who Skall of the Dustmen is exactly?
From what I remember he projects himself from the negative planes and never is physically in Sigil and we know he is a lich.
And on the cover of Turn of Fortune's Wheel I suspect it's him behind Shemeshka.

If you follow my train of thought I suspect him to be Vecna in desguise. In fact in my own Planescape campaign, I made him secretly Vecna using this persona to move his pawn in Sigil (Faction War and Die Vecna Die never happened).

 

[pukunui]

@Henadic Theologian: if memory serves, they first said it back when Ravnica first came out. It was part of the explanation as to why they didn’t bother with the MtG colors and such. Because these are reimaginings, not actual in-game crossovers. They’ve probably reiterated that a few times. It’ll be in the product intro videos and such.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

I told you. I warned several times Vecna's actions in Sigil caused the reset of the D&D Multiverse and now this is the excuse again to explain the current and cominsoon retcons in the revised 5e.

My theory is beside this we are going to see possible "crossovers" with no-fantasy franchises, for example Cybertronians dinobots vs terrorcons in one of the layers of Mechanus, or some cameo of Rom, the stellar knight, or a domain of delight within the Feywild based in the franchise Dreamoons. I wonder if we will be Gamma World, Star Frontiers and Star*Drive/Alternity within the D&D Multiverse, even when advanced tech breaks radically the power balance.

Other point is Vecna, somebody so wicked who wrote "Book of Vile Darkness" couldn't create a new D&D multiverse more "Grimmdark". I mean Vecna maybe caused the reboot, but he couldn't to controll it.

If alternate timelines and time-travels are canon in 5e, then we could see in DMGuild lots of titles style "What if..?" in Dragonlance and others. Dark Sun could be totally rebooted and reimagined, adapting to new sensitivities, and the new elements from later editions.

* I suspect the Weavers aren't a new creature, but an update or retcon of the "spellwavers".

 

[Parmandur]

@Henadic Theologian: if memory serves, they first said it back when Ravnica first came out. It was part of the explanation as to why they didn’t bother with the MtG colors and such. Because these are reimaginings, not actual in-game crossovers. They’ve probably reiterated that a few times. It’ll be in the product intro videos and such.

Pretty sure Mark Rosewater said the same thing when asked about how D&D versions of these Settings interact with Magic story: basically they do if the DM wants them to, but they are their own seperate thing by default.

 

[Parmandur]

Talking about that do we know who Skall of the Dustmen is exactly?
From what I remember he projects himself from the negative planes and never is physically in Sigil and we know he is a lich.
And on the cover of Turn of Fortune's Wheel I suspect it's him behind Shemeshka.

If you follow my train of thought I suspect him to be Vecna in desguise. In fact in my own Planescape campaign, I made him secretly Vecna using this persona to move his pawn in Sigil (Faction War and Die Vecna Die never happened).

That is some high quality speculation!

 

[Henadic Theologian]

@Henadic Theologian: if memory serves, they first said it back when Ravnica first came out. It was part of the explanation as to why they didn’t bother with the MtG colors and such. Because these are reimaginings, not actual in-game crossovers. They’ve probably reiterated that a few times. It’ll be in the product intro videos and such.

Okay, I understand why you don't have a link for that, it would have been nice is all.

 

[Parmandur]

Taking this over from the Planescape thread:

Thing is, by embracing an "Everythign, Everywhere, All at Once" model...they can use one last Realms shaking event to kill Metaplot for good, and create an evergreen starting point thar can ignore any ongoing media or table play. I think we could see a new FR Setring product that WotC can use as a permanent baseline, as with Eberron.

Bawhahahahaha, FR metaplot never dies, it'd take more powerful Gods then Vecna to kill FRs metaplot, it's a core concept of the setting.

There hasn't been any metaplot on the RPG side since 2014, and this seems to be setting themselves up metaphysical to avoid it on a permanent basis. Part of the problem WotC has with the Realms, RPG design wise, is that while the FR is extremely popular the fanbase is split. Aome people never adopted the Time of Trouvles, some never adopted the 3E changes, some never acknowledged the Spellplague, and some never went with the Second Sundering. The Sword Coast is the focus partly because they can write Adventurea that can be adapted to all of those timeframes fairly easily. I think theybare setting up a new RPG game state, using the timey-whimey shenanigans, that will remain static on purpose and point people to older Edition resources to make their home table as they will.

 

[bedir than]

kill Metaplot for good,

good

 

[vecna00]

The alternate version of yourself in Planescape due to the reality glitch makes me think of Die Vecna Die and all the alternate reality versions of Tovag Baragu.

When @Parmandur first mentioned it in the other thread, I immediately thought of Vecna's time in Sigil and havoc he wrought on the multiverse.

It was explained that his time there changed things for third edition. But what if every edition is a parallel multiverse created by Vecna?

I just started this thread, so I don't know if it's been mentioned or shot down already!