D&D 5E "The next iteration of D&D is a game on its own"

[foolish_mortals]

I hope the flumphs who have the time to help them playtest/write the new dnd game can come here and post about their experiences. I hate reading these dorky statements from these game building toads like money cookie that don't really tell me anything. Better to hear what the players are saying, free of the marketing blabber.

long live the game flumphs!
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[TerraDave]

I hadn't realised that this was ever in doubt!

Things seem obvious...until they are not.

They have made a lot of bold statements, and some people have high expectations. But to be a functional game, they will have to make some choices.

I guess that is where the play-test comes in.

 

[mkill]

I hate reading these dorky statements from these game building toads like money cookie

I have my own beef with Monte Cook, but at least I have the decency to call him by his name. And lets face it, he has achieved more in game design than you ever will (or I, for that matter). Even if you disagree with some of his design decisions, there is no need for that level of disrespect.

With all due respect, please shut up. I'll look up the ignore function of this forum now, which is a first time for me. If you consider this an achievement, you are welcome.

 

[Number48]

What I think and hope they are going to do is take the 80% of what is great in the concept (not necessarily the mechanics) of 3E, plus the 80% of what is great in the concept of 4E plus another 40% of new stuff that is great and give a game running at 200%.

 

[Jack99]

Sounds less and less as if the base will be 3e or 4e. Rather, it will be a very simplified version of 1e, and then you have all the options that you can add to that simplified base, thus creating a character closer to 3e or even 4e, if that is what you want.

 

[Number48]

Sounds less and less as if the base will be 3e or 4e. Rather, it will be a very simplified version of 1e, and then you have all the options that you can add to that simplified base, thus creating a character closer to 3e or even 4e, if that is what you want.

I disagree. What you describe would be very hard for moving an already-created character from one campaign to another. I don't think that is what they promised. I think it is, or at least should be, that we use this system as our model for combat, this system as our model for noncombat, this system as our model for worldbuilding and in the fiddly parts of character creation we have a simplicity dial that doesn't change what the fiddly bit might do but just how much choice and thus fiddling you exercise in using it.

 

[TerraDave]

...moving an already-created character from one campaign to another. ....

This is were the quote become relevant. It will be a new game, and the character will have to be converted, at least to some extent.

It may be easy to do, or not. But I don't think you will be able to take your AD&D char sheet and just use as is.

 

[Number48]

This is were the quote become relevant. It will be a new game, and the character will have to be converted, at least to some extent.

It may be easy to do, or not. But I don't think you will be able to take your AD&D char sheet and just use as is.

You misunderstand what I meant. I mean, in from Jack99's statement of how he sees 5E I think it sounds hard to use the same character in 2 different 5E games. That is what is promised is that I can use the same character in both my buddies 5E games that have different option sets and have to do little to no fiddling with the character to make that happen.

 

[TerraDave]

[MENTION=6688047]Number48[/MENTION] Ahh. I did misunderstand indeed.

I am...guessing...they have a way of balancing choices on the player side. So you can then carry your character around in that sense. Now, some things the DM might still not allow (psionics, or divine characters in a Dark Sun game).

Other, rules type stuff, remains with the DM. So the core game has simple healing, no attacks of opportunity...and these then may very across games depending on the DM.

But yes, there will be grey areas. You build a character to use a maneuver system not allowed...is that like psionics (and a no), does the DM make an exception for you...it will be an issue.

 

[Aegir]

The whole bit about $10 for lunch and everyone chooses something different makes it sound like there will be a toolbox of various rules additions (for example start with a core of 1e, and a toolbox that contains things like 2e weapon/non-weapon profs, 3e skills, 3e feats, 4e powers, etc), and each has a point cost, and you are granted X amount of points with which to buy in to various aspects of character customization.

That could be totally off, but its what comes to mind from that quote.