The Fourth Goblinoid

[James Gasik]

There's also Dekanter Goblins from the Forgotten Realms, Forestkith Goblins, and my personal least favorite, the Varag.

 

[Tonguez]

There's also Dekanter Goblins from the Forgotten Realms, Forestkith Goblins, and my personal least favorite, the Varag.

Are Dekanter those rhino gobs? They never made sense as goblins to me.
Varag are very cool though I tend to combine them with Bhargest

 

[James Gasik]

Are Dekanter those rhino gobs? They never made sense as goblins to me.
Varag are very cool though I tend to combine them with Bhargest

Yeah those are the ones, red with a horn. Very weird.

Low CR enemies with advanced Feats like Spring Attack are obnoxious.

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up xvarts on my wife's behalf. All mitflits in Pathfinder are now xvarts because they're the low level chumps she loves to smash.

 

[James Gasik]

What about Nilbogs?

 

[Tonguez]

I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up xvarts on my wife's behalf. All mitflits in Pathfinder are now xvarts because they're the low level chumps she loves to smash.

And of course that path leads to boggles and boggarts are the whole realm of unseelie fae

 

[James Gasik]

Well now that Goblins are going to be considered Fey going forward...

 

[Celebrim]

What about Nilbogs?

We don't talk about Nilbogs.

 

[Willie the Duck]

Well now that Goblins are going to be considered Fey going forward...

Eh, it just means that the term Fey is going to expand to mean anything the designers want. Theoretically Cthulhu could be included as a fey since Eldritch comes from the middle-English elfriche, or 'of the elven kingdom.'

 

[Guang]

At start kobolds, goblins, orcs, and hobgoblins were just the 1/2, 1D-1, 1, and 1D+1 HD versions of effectively the same* thing**. (.....)But in the end, no, orcs and bugbears were mostly differentiated by the bugbears having more HD, and the occasional depiction as being ambushers.
*I guess kobolds 1 worse and hobgoblins 1 better AC also distinguishes
**Bugbears coming out in Supplement I and being 3+1 HD and getting 2-8 damage instead of 1-6 gives them a clear difference, but one created by the change in how the game worked midway through.

I had forgotten how much HD size progression came into play. I'd assumed Bugbears and Orcs had the same HD - I guess I'll have to look at that more closely.

The rest of the family in my game world is Ogres, Great Goblins, and Barghest.

I would love a more mundane Barghest (not shape-changing, not graduating back to the outer planes after consuming enough souls). They'd be a perfect Fourth Gobinoid. I'd want to see something like that in action, in literature or in an adventure to get a feel for them, though.

There's also Dekanter Goblins from the Forgotten Realms, Forestkith Goblins, and my personal least favorite, the Varag.

..and the aquatic half-octopus goblins, and snow versions of each. Lots of variety. But if you had to choose one, to be a "main" variety?
I've been seeing how they would hold up if they were a part of Dar (or pre-Dar) society. Mainly because the divisions between the goblinoid types are so vivid.

Well now that Goblins are going to be considered Fey going forward...

Maybe? (I mean RAW, yes, of course, but for me) This would be an additional, different, type of creature. Gnomes have the same kind of thing going on - you have the magical secretive keebler elves of the forest, and the technological tinkerer inventors. Two completely separare creatures (or at least societies) with nothing really in common except for the name gnome. Same with fey goblins and regular goblins.

I guess I'll eventually have to deal with the same bifurcation of post-warcraft-type Orcs and Cubicle 7 Tolkien Orcs of the Shadow. But I guess that's off topic.