Star Wars: Andor

[Paul Farquhar]

"He has brass. You can see that, but..."

And I find that simply unbelievable that someone should think that. Because all I see is some sulky emo guy with no evidence of exceptional skills in any field.

 

[pukunui]

I’m confused on the timeline and why some are saying that the crashed ship people were dying from poison in the air. The scavengers that radio Andor didn’t seem concerned.

There appeared to have been some poison in the air in the ship, which is why all the dead Separatists had yellowed skin and were wearing gas masks.

As Maarva and her husband enter the ship, B2EMO lets them know the air is fine to breathe, and Maarva comments that whatever it was has "burned off" and tells her husband to take his mask off.

It's possible that the poison got into the ship because they visited the mine where the disaster happened, but there certainly wasn't any poison in the planet's air, otherwise all the Kenari children would've died long ago.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

There appeared to have been some poison in the air in the ship, which is why all the dead Separatists had yellowed skin and were wearing gas masks.

As Maarva and her husband enter the ship, B2EMO lets them know the air is fine to breathe, and Maarva comments that whatever it was has "burned off" and tells her husband to take his mask off.

It's possible that the poison got into the ship because they visited the mine where the disaster happened, but there certainly wasn't any poison in the planet's air, otherwise all the Kenari children would've died long ago.

I was assuming the folk on the ship where just aliens who looked human apart from skin-colour. But that is a more sensible explanation. I found the storytelling somewhat incoherent in those flashback sections.

otherwise all the Kenari children would've died long ago.

Unless they had developed some kind of poison immunity, which will turn out to be a plot point later on.

Imperial: "Gas them all!"

Andor: "Ah hah! I am immune to poison because of an incident retconned into my backstory."

 

[Older Beholder]

I'm enjoying the series so far. Probably the best looking Star Wars series so far.

I just realised Tony Gilroy (who co-wrote Rogue one) is the brother of Dan Gilroy who wrote and directed Nightcrawler
And both have writing credits on Andor.

I'm a big fan of Nightcrawler, so this has increased my interest in the series even more.

 

[Celebrim]

I found the storytelling somewhat incoherent in those flashback sections.

The flashback sequences were the clunkiest part of the story so far. If in fact his backstory proves to be unimportant to any further part of the story, then I'm going to strike those as a failure and a waste of time.

Unless they had developed some kind of poison immunity, which will turn out to be a plot point later on.

What was going on in the backstory sequence is really hard to work out. Where the kids alive because the adults had given them some sort of antidote that was in limited supply, or where the kids alive because it wasn't a poisonous agent at all but a biological agent that like some diseases causes only weak symptoms in children but is lethal to adults? There are a variety of possible inspirations in the Legends canon for the empire covering up planetary devastation with claims of a "mining accident".

My best guess is that there was an Imperial bioweapons facility on the planet that suffered an accident. (The Empire was big into bioweapons development late in the clone wars and in the early rise period before too many "accidents" of this kind persuaded them to give it up.) The CIS agents were there to get a sample of bioweapon agent in order to develop a countermeasure in the event the Empire deployed it, but were attacked by the Republic/Empire (the phrase "Republic Cruiser" is very ambiguous since it can refer to a family of light warships or to a cruiser in service to the Republic) and exposed to the agent. Working against this theory is the presence of the adults who kidnap/rescue Cassian, which suggests it was a chemical agent released on a global scale, which then leaves you to wonder how the kids survived.

My guess is that Cassian at some point is going to want to quit or will quit, but then will be told what really happened and this will convince him to keep fighting. Or Cassian will have a mission that relates to Imperial WMD development that ties into what happened in his childhood. I really hope it's not a throw away sequence.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Speaking of retconning, it looks like they took care of the age thing in episode 4. Cassian talks about being 16 and fighting in some war, while in the original canon, he was 6 when he became a child soldier. That puts Cassian a lot closer to Diego's actual age and now makes him about 30-31 for the start of the show, instead of 20-21, and 36 in Rogue One.

 

[Rabulias]

Speaking of retconning, it looks like they took care of the age thing in episode 4. Cassian talks about being 16 and fighting in some war, while in the original canon, he was 6 when he became a child soldier. That puts Cassian a lot closer to Diego's actual age and now makes him about 30-31 for the start of the show, instead of 20-21, and 36 in Rogue One.

Possibly. It fits, but we saw fighting on Mimban in Solo, and that was about 10BBY, so fighting on Mimban continues or resumes some unknown amount of time after the Clone Wars end. In fact, it sounds suspiciously like they took his official age in Rogue One (26), and said "Hey, when did that fighting on Mimban in Solo take place? 10 years before Rogue One? Let's see, 26 minus 10 gives us... 16!"

 

[pukunui]

We could also just assume he was 6 when he and the other Kenari children were orphaned and so he considers that to be the starting point of his fight against the Empire.

That would also remove the unsavory “child soldier” element.

 

[MarkB]

We could also just assume he was 6 when he and the other Kenari children were orphaned and so he considers that to be the starting point of his fight against the Empire.

That would also remove the unsavory “child soldier” element.

And I suspect we're not done with the flashback scenes - there just wasn't time for them this episode with all the introductions. We may yet see the seeds of his opposition to the Empire being sown shortly after his rescue/abduction.

 

[wicked cool]

I was assuming the folk on the ship where just aliens who looked human apart from skin-colour. But that is a more sensible explanation. I found the storytelling somewhat incoherent in those flashback sections.

Unless they had developed some kind of poison immunity, which will turn out to be a plot point later on.

Imperial: "Gas them all!"

Andor: "Ah hah! I am immune to poison because of an incident retconned into my backstory."

I thought they had green skin as well.