Spelljammer Spelljammer Price Increase - a Poll (MISSING OPTION ADDED)

[LuisCarlos17f]

I will await the translated version. I am a collector, no a true player. I can allow it because I don't spend money in other things.

 

[Retreater]

Each book is 64 pages.

Ah. The mock-ups I've seen look like full-sized hardbacks.
It would be entirely too much to pay if I wasn't going to use it. If the material is good, it's worth it.
Don't think I would use it because I don't like campaign settings or really 5e anymore (if I'm honest).

 

[Grendel_Khan]

Ah. The mock-ups I've seen look like full-sized hardbacks.
It would be entirely too much to pay if I wasn't going to use it. If the material is good, it's worth it.
Don't think I would use it because I don't like campaign settings or really 5e anymore (if I'm honest).

I've paid more for shorter books, when they're from creators I really want to support. But having all three packaged together like this, without the option (so far) to buy individual books separately, seems a little unsavory to me. Let the collectors collect and the gamers game.

 

[Bacon Bits]

It hasn't changed my mind. I'm going to wait until the product is released before I decide if I want it.

In general I like the idea of magical ships existing for travel, but have never liked the specific implementation of the Spelljammer setting. However, I'll take what I want for my campaigns as needed.

 

[Bacon Bits]

I've paid more for shorter books, when they're from creators I really want to support. But having all three packaged together like this, without the option (so far) to buy individual books separately, seems a little unsavory to me. Let the collectors collect and the gamers game.

Presumably the plan is for the player-facing content to subsidize the content of the other two, since it's difficult to produce DM-facing content and really sell a lot of books. It's probably more correct to say that we'd never get anything like this if it wasn't structured this way. The amount of work to create the DM content is so high that it requires the player content to justify, and the player content doesn't have a meaningful reason to exist without the DM content.

 

[Retreater]

I've paid more for shorter books, when they're from creators I really want to support. But having all three packaged together like this, without the option (so far) to buy individual books separately, seems a little unsavory to me. Let the collectors collect and the gamers game.

So this is sort of making me think of the DM's Kit boxed set that was released with D&D Essentials in the 4e era (2010). Came in a boxed set and included a couple short adventures, DM screen, tokens, and a softcover manual for $40. Also not available for individual sale.
Granted that same set would be around $53 today, adjusted for inflation.

 

[overgeeked]

Because it is the same amount of material as a hardback, and a shorter one at that (e.g. Tasha's - not, say, Eberron at 320 pages or Ravenloft's 256 pages).

So if you're a budget-conscious buyer, $70 for 192 pages of material is definitely an increase from past offerings, regardless of how one frames it.

Well, if you insist on removing context, like the hardcovers, the slipcase, the screen, and the double-sided map, then sure. But at that point it’s not an entirely honest comparison.

 

[SAVeira]

No change here. This price increase was expected. Disliked but expected with cost of printing and paper now.

 

[Grendel_Khan]

So this is sort of making me think of the DM's Kit boxed set that was released with D&D Essentials in the 4e era (2010). Came in a boxed set and included a couple short adventures, DM screen, tokens, and a softcover manual for $40. Also not available for individual sale.
Granted that same set would be around $53 today, adjusted for inflation.

Modern comparison: Free League's Twilight 2000 is a $53 box set with

• 152-page Player’s Manual
• A 112-page Referee’s Manual
• A large double-sided travel map
• 15 custom dice
• 16 modular battle maps
• Four battle maps for specific scenario sites
• 108 cardboard tokens
• 52 encounter cards
• 10 initiative cards
• Five blank character sheets

No GM screen, but also that's a complete game right there, no need for two other hardcover books to play it.

Of course the manuals that come with Twilight 2000 are softcover. But to me, that's a plus! A hardcover under 100 pages is an odd little creature, imo.

 

[Umbran]

Well, if you insist on removing context, like the hardcovers, the slipcase, the screen, and the double-sided map, then sure. But at that point it’s not an entirely honest comparison.

We should also include economic reality of inflation in that context.