So how do we respond?

Mecheon

Sacabambaspis
And for some inexplicable reason also want draconian control of:

5. Songs/Music
6. Plays
7. Pantomimes

If there's a band out there willing to record and release a song titled something like "Mind Flayers" I'll gladly volunteer to bang out some lyrics for it.
I wouldn't really call it inexplicable. There's plenty of D&D inspired music out there (Most obvious being 'Dungeon Master' but there's others), there's that one play about Raistilin, and if you infer by 'Pantomimes' they actually are referring to LARPs, no surprise they'd want a slice out of that pie as well. Basically trying to cover all bridges and trying to catch anything they can
 

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S'mon

Legend
Make noise.

That's what matters above all. Make Wizards know that you are unhappy. Loudly, repeatedly, in channels they will see. (There's a 1D&D playtest survey up right now where you can enter text responses; filling it with angry comments could start them worrying about their big upcoming release.) Tell other people and get them making noise too.

If you aren't making noise, you won't be heard.

Boycotting is good too. But, again, make sure they know why. If you cancel your DDB subscription, be sure to say why you're doing it.

I agree about 'make noise'.

If the worst happens, for now I'll likely continue playing 5e D&D with my home groups, and on Roll20 if Roll20 even survives. Obviously I'll not buy any WoTC product or give them money otherwise.

If WotC somehow succeeds in revoking the OGL (which I don't believe will happen), I have a friend Kimberly Pauley who's publishing a 3PP supplement The Tales Were True who'll be badly affected. I'll want to advise her on how to publish her work sans OGL if necessary. I think it should be doable.
 

delericho

Legend
For the moment, I retain a little hope that this delay indicates they've thought better of their approach. However if they do attempt to deauthorize the previous OGL, even if they fail to do so, and even if they later change their minds, I'm done with them, permanently.

Ironically, that means that my final D&D product is the "Starter Set". Which has a nice symmetry, given that my first was the Red Box all those years ago.

In my case, it almost certainly means I'm done with gaming as a whole. As I've said elsewhere, I'm currently running what is probably my last-ever campaign anyway, and right now the thought of rolling any dice turns my stomach.

I'm yet to decide just how Scorched Earth to go beyond that. I'm tempted, but I don't think I can really be bothered.
 

Staffan

Legend
I wouldn't really call it inexplicable. There's plenty of D&D inspired music out there (Most obvious being 'Dungeon Master' but there's others), there's that one play about Raistilin, and if you infer by 'Pantomimes' they actually are referring to LARPs, no surprise they'd want a slice out of that pie as well. Basically trying to cover all bridges and trying to catch anything they can
The pantomimes thing has to be a rhetorical device where they're listing increasingly outlandish things. Much like "I don't want to hear from them right now. I don't care if they're communicating by letter, phone, fax, e-mail, telegram, carrier pigeon or smoke signals, I don't want to hear it."
 

Ondath

Hero
I submitted a ticket to have my D&D Beyond account deleted. WotC has lost my trust, and I don’t want to risk accidentally being tainted by the OGL 1.1. However, it’s been a while since I played or ran 5e, and I don’t care about 6e, so losing my purchases isn’t really a big deal.
How did you manage to do it? When I try to sign in to D&D Beyond support, it just takes me to my WotC account page and doesn't sign me in for the support portal.
 

Bitbrain

Lost in Dark Sun
Reply to OP.

My group is sticking with 5e for now anyway, but I personally am going to start purchasing from the folks over at Basic Fantasy and also Shadow of the Demon Lord.
 


DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
My response will be the same as it has always been-- buy stuff I want to own, and not buy stuff I do not want to own.

It goes no further than that. Someone or some business offers a good or service to me, I make a decision to buy it or not buy it, and that's where it ends... there is no further communication or concern. And who or what are the peoples/companies involved have no bearing on anything for me because I do not personify companies in a way where "trust" or "liking" or "hating" companies are emotions I have towards them.

Hasbro and WotC will do what they do, and somewhere down the line they may make a product I wish to own or might not. And so I'm not going to make any declarations about my intentions right now either way, because I know that declaration at this moment in time is meaningless.
 

kenada

Legend
Supporter
How did you manage to do it? When I try to sign in to D&D Beyond support, it just takes me to my WotC account page and doesn't sign me in for the support portal.
On some pages, there’s a “Submit a Request” button at the bottom (e.g., on the account deletion page). I clicked that and filled out the form. They responded last night asking for information regarding my account, which I provided, and for me to confirm I understood the consequences.
 

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