Ulthwithian
First Post
Two: While I think most people in this thread are quite pro-4E, you must admit that there seems to be quite a contingent of people on these forums for which 'any stick will do'.
Something that seems to fall out of the math is the fact that the +5 DC makes the likelihood of succeeding in any challenge fairly remote. Therefore, I am going to try to track down what happens if you have, say, people with skills of +9, +7, +6, and +5 going into a skill challenge, and what's the chances of success.
Incidentally, the 8 cusp mark bears out the idea that Aiding Another was assumed to have a +2 bonus on the roll. As the above analysis states, if you have 4 people Aiding Another on each person's check, the expected result is a bonus of 5.2, which offsets the +5 DC and brings the 'DC 20' challenges down to the level of 'DC 15' challenges. This might shed some additional light on this admittedly murky topic.
Something that seems to fall out of the math is the fact that the +5 DC makes the likelihood of succeeding in any challenge fairly remote. Therefore, I am going to try to track down what happens if you have, say, people with skills of +9, +7, +6, and +5 going into a skill challenge, and what's the chances of success.
Incidentally, the 8 cusp mark bears out the idea that Aiding Another was assumed to have a +2 bonus on the roll. As the above analysis states, if you have 4 people Aiding Another on each person's check, the expected result is a bonus of 5.2, which offsets the +5 DC and brings the 'DC 20' challenges down to the level of 'DC 15' challenges. This might shed some additional light on this admittedly murky topic.