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[Bedrockgames]

I would think that's fine right? I would imagine the idea of a gun safe is to keep kids or folks in the home in a desperate situation from quick access to the guns, not to keep what I think some people imagine is some sort of video game troop of commandos from storming their home and stealing their weaponry.

I think you are bringing this up because I mentioned safes and home invasions. 1) I was not talking about a gun safe. I was talking about safe's for valuables. 2) a home invasion isn't a military style raid. It is just term for when people force their way into your home to commit a robbery or other crime. So a guy with no weapon, and a hammer, knocking on the door, hitting you in the head, and taking your TV would be a home invasion.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Yikes!

I would like to point out though that actual, factual, verifiable reports and 'something you read about' are often wildly different things.

Yes but these were in the local papers and police logs

 

[Ryujin]

I would think that's fine right? I would imagine the idea of a gun safe is to keep kids or folks in the home in a desperate situation from quick access to the guns, not to keep what I think some people imagine is some sort of video game troop of commandos from storming their home and stealing their weaponry.

The average break-in seems to involve some opportunistic thief with a screwdriver, or perhaps a crowbar. Not a jackhammer. If you have something that's going to take them an hour or two get get into, then you've likely succeeded.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Yes but these were in the local papers and police logs

So the frequency of home invasions, per year, per unit of population would be what according to those police logs?

 

[Bedrockgames]

So the frequency of home invasions, per year, per unit of population would be what according to those police logs?

What is with the inquisition lol. I don't know. You live in a place, you read the local paper, and you hear about people you know who were victimized, and you form an impression. You don't put together stats (and those can even be misleading because stats usually cover a whole city, but what matters often is the neighborhood you happen to live in. I saw enough violence around where I lived, and I heard about, read about, and saw enough news stories on the TV to understand. Again not the most high crime city in the state, but also not uncommon to hear about gang shootings and break ins or armed robberies at the local stores

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

The average break-in seems to involve some opportunistic thief with a screwdriver, or perhaps a crowbar. Not a jackhammer. If you have something that's going to take them an hour or two get get into, then you've likely succeeded.

I see that you live in Brampton. Pretty sure home invasions shouldn't be at the top of your list of concerns! I know you guys had one I read about last month. Recency bias? Even for Canada, an incredibly safe place, Brampton has a really low crime index.

Source: Canada Crime Report: Canada Crime Rates by City

 

[payn]

If you live in a neighbourhood that is so crime-ridden, the likelihood that you can afford a gun safe seems low though right?

I grew up in some pretty impoverished neighbourhoods (in Canada). This sort of rampant thievery in 'bad neighbourhoods' (at least here) is more a product of Hollywood than a real world problem. I mean, it happened, but not nearly to the degree that some Americans seem to be concerned about it.

The gun culture, the Castle Doctrine, the bad guys around every corner, fear of home invasions, the xenophobia... it's pretty alien stuff to non-Americans, even those somewhat culturally aligned, like Canadians, Europeans, Australians, New Zealanders, etc.

There is a lot of paranoia stirred by the media and other sources that have folks on edge even in the the most remote and safe places in America.

I have the safe not because im worried about an invasion, however, I do take ownership with the utmost responsibility. My father was an avid huntsmen and left a small number to me when he passed. I would be devastated if someone broke into my home and took them and used them in a violent crime. I keep them for sentiment reasons, and occasional bonding with my brothers during trap events. Thus I felt the reasonable and responsible thing to do was to secure them.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

What is with the inquisition lol. I don't know. You live in a place, you read the local paper, and you hear about people you know who were victimized, and you form an impression. You don't put together stats (and those can even be misleading because stats usually cover a whole city, but what matters often is the neighborhood you happen to live in. I saw enough violence around where I lived, and I heard about, read about, and saw enough news stories on the TV to understand. Again not the most high crime city in the state, but also not uncommon to hear about gang shootings and break ins or armed robberies at the local stores

It's not an inquisition. I just find the mindset fascinating. What prompts some people to feel like they live under constant threat? Don't feel under some sort of pressure to feed my curiosity though... you can walk away from the conversation at any time.

 

[Ryujin]

If you live in a neighbourhood that is so crime-ridden, the likelihood that you can afford a gun safe seems low though right?

I grew up in some pretty impoverished neighbourhoods (in Canada). This sort of rampant thievery in 'bad neighbourhoods' (at least here) is more a product of Hollywood than a real world problem. I mean, it happened, but not nearly to the degree that some Americans seem to be concerned about it.

The gun culture, the Castle Doctrine, the bad guys around every corner, fear of home invasions, the xenophobia... it's pretty alien stuff to non-Americans, even those somewhat culturally aligned, like Canadians, Europeans, Australians, New Zealanders, etc.

I live in what is often considered a "bad city" in Canada; Brampton. In my life here, over the past 50+ years, there have been precisely 3 violent events in my neighbourhood.

1) A guy I went to high school with, who was what would be referred to as a "troubled teen", killed a guy in a local bar with a knife. That was almost 40 years ago.

2) A gang of teens smashed out the windows of my neighbour, across the courtyard, at about 3:00am one day. I would estimate there were about a dozen of them. Half that number of us residents exited our houses with a miscellany of bats, crowbars, etc., and they took off running. That was about 25 years ago.

3) This one is more in like with the sort of thing people fear. The other half of our townhouse complex, on the other side of the street, has had a bit of a problem with drug dealers living there. During the lockdown there was a shooting. Drive by. Seventeen shots fired. No one injured. I woke up to the cops flying a massive drone overhead.

There are far worse areas in this city but, by and large, the incidents are inflated by media.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

I live in what is often considered a "bad city" in Canada; Brampton. In my life here, over the past 50+ tears, there have been precisely 3 violent events in my neighbourhood.

1) A guy I went to high school with, who was what would be referred to as a "troubled teen", killed a guy in a local bar with a knife. That was almost 40 years ago.

2) A gang of teens smashed out the windows of my neighbour, across the courtyard, at about 3:00am one day. I would estimate there were about a dozen of them. Half that number of us residents exited our houses with a miscellany of bats, crowbars, etc., and they took off running. That was about 25 years ago.

3) This one is more in like with the sort of thing people fear. The other half of our townhouse complex, on the other side of the street, has had a bit of a problem with drug dealers living there. During the lockdown there was a shooting. Drive by. Seventeen shots fired. No one injured. I woke up to the cops flying a massive drone overhead.

There are far worse areas in this city but, by and large, the incidents are inflated by media.

See also this reply I made to you a few minutes ago!

I see that you live in Brampton. Pretty sure home invasions shouldn't be at the top of your list of concerns! I know you guys had one I read about last month. Recency bias? Even for Canada, an incredibly safe place, Brampton has a really low crime index.

Source: Canada Crime Report: Canada Crime Rates by City