Mental protection
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... although if the protection effect is always on, there really isn't that much difference. Note that a charm effect doesn't involve "commands" as such, it just makes the target think the caster is their friend. This would also be suppressed by the protection, I would think.
There is also a protection from charm spell in OA, which is 2nd level. It grants a +1 resistance bonus per 3 caster levels (max +5) on Will saves against charm and compulsion effects.
rhammer2 said:
... although if the protection effect is always on, there really isn't that much difference. Note that a charm effect doesn't involve "commands" as such, it just makes the target think the caster is their friend. This would also be suppressed by the protection, I would think.
There is also a protection from charm spell in OA, which is 2nd level. It grants a +1 resistance bonus per 3 caster levels (max +5) on Will saves against charm and compulsion effects.
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No way. The spell says it protects from "mental control" (etc), then goes on to describe the way it basically suppresses things like a vampire's supernatural domination ability. Domination allows you to control the actions of another via telepathic link with the subject's mind. It's that telepathic/mental control that Protection from Evil blocks, while it remains in effect.
Charm person makes you regard the caster as your trusted friend and ally & the spell specifically states it doesn't give you control of the subject. Huge difference.
I think the spell you would need is Mind Blank (Protection8, Sor/Wiz8), which protects you from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts.
hong said:
No way. The spell says it protects from "mental control" (etc), then goes on to describe the way it basically suppresses things like a vampire's supernatural domination ability. Domination allows you to control the actions of another via telepathic link with the subject's mind. It's that telepathic/mental control that Protection from Evil blocks, while it remains in effect.
Charm person makes you regard the caster as your trusted friend and ally & the spell specifically states it doesn't give you control of the subject. Huge difference.
I think the spell you would need is Mind Blank (Protection8, Sor/Wiz8), which protects you from all devices and spells that detect, influence, or read emotions or thoughts.
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And how is a spell supposed to manipulate your thought processes to make the caster your "trusted friend" without some degree of control?
I find it highly illogical that prot. evil would protect against a stronger form of mental influence, but not a weaker one.
Errant said:
And how is a spell supposed to manipulate your thought processes to make the caster your "trusted friend" without some degree of control?
I find it highly illogical that prot. evil would protect against a stronger form of mental influence, but not a weaker one.
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Errant said:
From the DnD FAQ:
The second function of the protection from evil spell blocks any attempt to possess the warded creature or to exercise mental control over the creature. What, exactly, counts as mental control?
"Mental control" includes all spells of the school of Enchantment that have the Charm subschool, such as animal friendship, charm person, and charm monster. It also includes some Enchantment spells of the Compulsion subschool if those spells grant the caster ongoing control over the subject; such spells include dominate person and dominate monster. Compulsions that merely dictate the subject's action at the time the spell takes effect are not blocked. Such spells include command, hold person, geas/quest, hypnotism, insanity, Otto’s irresistible dance, random action, suggestion, and zone of truth.
So hong is correct. Protection from Evil will protect you from Charm Person.
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