Magic Item Costs - Sleep Arrows?
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He wants a packaged, throwable, single charge, fourth-level spell? That sounds a lot like a bead of force.
The beads cost 3000 gp each. I'd price a "rusting bullet" somewhat higher, say 3500 each, because they effectively turn a Touch spell into one with Close range.
The beads cost 3000 gp each. I'd price a "rusting bullet" somewhat higher, say 3500 each, because they effectively turn a Touch spell into one with Close range.
kreynolds
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jaults said:
T&B has a cool any spell, single use, use-activated pricing formula that I think works well for something like this. The formula, 4*7*100 would yield a price of 2,800gp. Considering that simply striking a target with such a sling bullet would not actually trigger the effect (the spell only effects one touched nonmagical ferrous object, though you can just strike the target if its a ferrous creature), that you would actually have to strike the object in question, the price seems fair to me. I just wouldn't allow someone to attack a fighter with such a bullet and have it automatically destroy a random item. Basically, I'd make you specifically attack the item, just like the spell requires.
jaults said:
That's a tough call, since the sleep spell doesn't affect creatures with more than 4 HD. Isn't there a higher level version of sleep somewhere?
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Artoomis
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jaults said:
Well, let's see.
Arrow of Sleep compared to that: Spell level (1) x Caster Level (1) x 50gp = 50 gp. + 47 gp for one +1 magic arrow (1/50th of 2,350). = 97 gp
However, it's: Faint enchantment; CL 5th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, sleep; Price 132 gp; Cost 69 gp 5 sp + 5 XP.
Hmmm. This leaves 35 gp unnaccounted or. That .7 times the base price for the spell (.7 x 50 - 35). Since Rusting Grasp is a touch spell, I'd make that factor be x2 rather than x1.7
Rusting Grasp = 4th level spell x 7th caster Level x 50g.p. x 2 (teh added factor from above) = 2800 + 47 gp = 2847 gp
Rusting Bolt: This +1 stone sling bullet is unpainted and unremarkable in appearance. If it strikes a foe so that it would normally deal damage, it instead bursts into magical energy that has the same effect as a "Rusting Grasp" spell. Note that it must hit normally, not as a touch attack, and that you can affect the target's armor only, since you cannot "attack a weapon" with a ranged weapon.
Moderate enchantment; CL 7th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Rusting Grasp; Price 2847 gp; Cost 1423 gp 5 sp + 142 XP.
Thast should be pretty close, anyway.
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This was covered in an issue of dragon a while back. IIRC, it broke down to:
94gp (2350 / 50 arrows * 2) + (SL * CL * K)
K is 50 if SL <= 3 or 100 if SL >= 4.
The cost of the +1 arrow is doubled as it's a secondary non-similar
ability of the item.
Ammunition must be at least +1 before a spell can be embedded.
A Sling Bullet of Rusting Grasp would then cost:
94 + (4 * 7 * 100) = 2897gp
94gp (2350 / 50 arrows * 2) + (SL * CL * K)
K is 50 if SL <= 3 or 100 if SL >= 4.
The cost of the +1 arrow is doubled as it's a secondary non-similar
ability of the item.
Ammunition must be at least +1 before a spell can be embedded.
A Sling Bullet of Rusting Grasp would then cost:
94 + (4 * 7 * 100) = 2897gp
kreynolds
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Artoomis said:
Artoomis, I don't really think this formula is appropriate for a sling bullet. The formula is more representative of potions, which require a standard action (drinking it) to activate it, while a sling bullet requires no action at all. IMO, potions got their own formula for a reason.
kreynolds
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Pyrex said:
Actually, secondary non-similar powers aren't doubled in 3.5, instead they have a 50% increase. If this is about 3.0, nevermind.
But anyway, I forgot the cost of the damn arrow. Doh! OK, that would bring my price too...4,240 for a rusting grasp sling bullet. That's better.
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