DerianCypher
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If your use these spells for their lesser purpose (duplicating spells) does it still take exp? For a 7th and 9th level spell I would think that is incredibly bad.
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DC
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Limited Wish/Wish
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Sollir Furryfoot
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Yes, although with Miracle you do not have to pay an exp cost for replicating spells w/o them already. Usually (IMO) Limited Wish and Wish are backup spells, you don't necessarily make a habit of using them all the time unless you have to.
Thanee
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Limited Wish is extremely powerful!
There are enough spells out there, which are not designed to be used by other classes and can be combined with other such spells from other spell lists with this nifty little spell!
In our last almost epic battle, both of our wizards used multiple Limited Wishes to boost their combat abilities (as offensive spells were useless against the high Spell Resistance of our adversary). Both of us easily outmatched the fighters abilities this way!
If this kind of buffing was available without spending XP... OMG!
300 XP is nothing to spend, when duplicating spells in times of need... nothing! It's just to prevent people from overusing this ability, and that's a good thing!
5000 XP for Wish is another matter, tho, that really hurts and seems much too hard for this specific application (1000 XP would be more than enough)!
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Thanee
There are enough spells out there, which are not designed to be used by other classes and can be combined with other such spells from other spell lists with this nifty little spell!
In our last almost epic battle, both of our wizards used multiple Limited Wishes to boost their combat abilities (as offensive spells were useless against the high Spell Resistance of our adversary). Both of us easily outmatched the fighters abilities this way!
If this kind of buffing was available without spending XP... OMG!
300 XP is nothing to spend, when duplicating spells in times of need... nothing! It's just to prevent people from overusing this ability, and that's a good thing!
5000 XP for Wish is another matter, tho, that really hurts and seems much too hard for this specific application (1000 XP would be more than enough)!
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Thanee
As a general rule, Limited Wish is *most* often used to duplicate lower-level spells.
The 300XP cost is a very small amount compared to average XP at this level (less than one-third XP gained from an encounter of CR=min.caster level with an average party size). The versatility is very useful, and can easily be a make-or-break for the character, or indeed the party. For one, you can duplicate Raise Dead if the party cleric dies. More to the point, you can be very versatile if combat, drawing exactly the right spell for the situation out of the hat.
Wish, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish. 5000XP is never anything to be sneezed at (roughly four times XP gained from an encounter of CR=min.caster level in an average party size). It is typically used for its greater functions. Incidentally, a nice little way to cheat with Wish is instead of duplicating spells, creating magical items: scrolls with said spells inscribed (of course, this won't help you with divine and prohibited spells)
The 300XP cost is a very small amount compared to average XP at this level (less than one-third XP gained from an encounter of CR=min.caster level with an average party size). The versatility is very useful, and can easily be a make-or-break for the character, or indeed the party. For one, you can duplicate Raise Dead if the party cleric dies. More to the point, you can be very versatile if combat, drawing exactly the right spell for the situation out of the hat.
Wish, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish. 5000XP is never anything to be sneezed at (roughly four times XP gained from an encounter of CR=min.caster level in an average party size). It is typically used for its greater functions. Incidentally, a nice little way to cheat with Wish is instead of duplicating spells, creating magical items: scrolls with said spells inscribed (of course, this won't help you with divine and prohibited spells)
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