Christian said:[House Rules]
Some DM's use an extension of the coup-de-grace rules, allowing subdual damage to knock helpless characters unconscious in a similar manner as normal damage would kill a helpless character.
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hong said:Actually, I don't see any problem with that even by the book. You can't CdG in a couple of circumstances:
- against a creature immune to crits (constructs, undead, etc)
- against a creature with regen, and you have a weapon that converts to subdual
Neither of these technically apply to CdGs with an attack against a creature that _doesn't_ regen, even if your attack does subdual in the first place. So go right ahead and knock that guy out with your sap.