WotC Greg Tito On Leaving WotC: 'It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of *****'

Screenshot 2024-08-31 at 11.21.33 PM.png

We reported earlier that WotC's communications director Greg Tito had left his 9-year stint managing the Dungeons & Dragons brand for a political appointment as Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington secretary of state's office.


In a surprising turn of events, Tito criticized his former employers, saying "It feels good to do something that doesn't just line the pockets of a**holes." He later went on to clarify "Sorry. I meant "shareholders".

Tito is now Deputy Director of External Affairs for the Washington Secretary of State office in Olympia, WA.

Screenshot 2024-08-31 at 11.17.45 PM.png
 

log in or register to remove this ad

I'm still unwilling to accept the idea that, "trash talk the shareholders of my former employer, whether or not it has merit, and become unemployable forever" is something that's so obvious people are surprised anyone has an issue with it.
Not "unemployable forever", just less employable. My opinion of shareholders as a greedy mob is low. Very low. But, I'm not in the market for a job.
 

log in or register to remove this ad

There's only so close to the rules I'm willing to tread, and I've been pretty close, already. So I'll just say this:

I recognize that there are jerks in positions of power who will look at a potential employee's social media or posting history to try and ensure nothing bites them in the butt at a later date.

But if something this tame is a bridge too far, the problem lies on the far side of the desk, not with Tito or other workers.
Morally I agree, for the most part :) Still, as a practical point on becoming employed... not the best idea. Those jerks also have a responsibility to their corporation and shareholders as well as their own rears :D. It does make hiring more difficult as well. Also, somebody who trashes one former employer, no matter how justified, may turn around and repeat the performance later.
 

Wow.

After reading (or skimming) through most of the 20+ pages so far . . .

I don't think anybody in this thread is accusing Tito of being unethical, immoral, or otherwise "wrong" in expressing his distaste in making money for shareholders . . . or for criticizing his former employer . . . but rather, "unwise". He's got every right to feel the way he does and to express his views like he did, but it's just a fact that potential employers and business partners might see this as a "red flag". Should they? Perhaps not, but some will. Thus, not unethical, but perhaps unwise.

Tito specifically said he was glad to no longer be making money for shareholders, but it's not a huge stretch that he was not happy with the corporate decisions made at WotC/Hasbro, driven by shareholder profits. That's an assumption, but one I'm pretty comfortable with. If Tito loved working on D&D, loved working with the D&D creative team and fan community, but didn't love the shareholder profit driven decisions of a large corporation . . . he's in good company. It's a sentiment shared by a lot of former TSR and WotC employees. But unless Tito goes into more detail, which is unlikely, it's all just assumptions on our parts.

Can we assume Tito was "badly treated" at WotC? No, I don't think we can based on his recent posts. You can dislike how your company is run without being badly treated by your superiors . . . I can certainly sympathize with that.

Good luck to him in his new position, he seems excited and positive, and I hope all works out well for him! I've really enjoyed his work on D&D over the years, and I'm glad he's moved into public service.
 

Jokes aside, this is a d-bag move because he's crapping on the work all his former co-workers are doing now and implying they aren't as ethically clean as he is now. Also, you can think something is sketchy, but making a decades worth of money off of it doesn't tell anyone you were morally conflicted.

Also. He wasn't some backroom schlub. He was their Director of Communications. If they were that bad, then he was the Mouth of Sauron, for NINE Years.
Ummm.... no? Considering as Head of PR, his job has basically nothing to do with, say, a designers job. Completely different departments.

Again, CONTEXT matters. The whole OGL thing was 2022. That means that he probably had no major problems with shareholders making his job difficult for most of the nine years he was there. Remember, WotC wasn't even a blip on shareholder radars until 2016, at the absolute earliest, and probably not until 2018. And, prior to the OGL thing, there weren't really all that many things going on with WotC that people were particularly up in arms about. Again, connect the dots here. He's pointing to shareholders being the problem. When did shareholders step into the light in regards to how WotC did it's business? About 2022 (ish).

The idea that WotC has been having major issues with the fandom for nine years is just not true in the slightest. Certainly not issues that could be connected to shareholders.
 

Ummm.... no? Considering as Head of PR, his job has basically nothing to do with, say, a designers job. Completely different departments.

Again, CONTEXT matters. The whole OGL thing was 2022. That means that he probably had no major problems with shareholders making his job difficult for most of the nine years he was there. Remember, WotC wasn't even a blip on shareholder radars until 2016, at the absolute earliest, and probably not until 2018. And, prior to the OGL thing, there weren't really all that many things going on with WotC that people were particularly up in arms about. Again, connect the dots here. He's pointing to shareholders being the problem. When did shareholders step into the light in regards to how WotC did it's business? About 2022 (ish).

The idea that WotC has been having major issues with the fandom for nine years is just not true in the slightest. Certainly not issues that could be connected to shareholders.
I'm not defending @OptionalRule here, I find his characterization of Tito unfair and insulting.

But WotC/Hasbro has been a publically traded company, with corporate level decisions driven by shareholder profits, since Hasbro bought WotC. Maybe before, was WotC publically traded? The company certainly had shareholders, and that was a major reason behind the decision to sell the company to Hasbro.

You can love aspects of your job, and dislike other aspects of your job, and stay in your job for decades. I'm a public school teacher . . . there are parts of the job I love! And things I've despised about public ed in the US since before I even started working as a teacher. When I finally quit or retire . . . I might leave some inflammatory posts on social media myself!!!

I just finished listening to the "When We Were Wizards" podcast about the first decade or so of TSR and D&D. Many of the former designers interviewed were very unhappy about how they were treated, about how the company was run . . . but stuck with the company despite it all because they loved working on D&D, and they loved their co-workers, the D&D team at the time. I can easily imagine Tito having similar feelings . . . happy to be done with serving corporate, profit-driven masters, but also a bit melancholy that his time working on D&D and with the D&D team is over. It's very possible he's not been a fan of the Hasbro and WotC execs for his entire tenure, but stuck around as long as he did because it was still an awesome job. But again, assumptions.
 

Further, unprofessional behaviour of certain kinds is genuinely bad. If you want an easy example see Mike Mearls and the Zak S situation. To recount briefly, Zak S was credibly accused by several women of sexually and otherwise abusing them. Zak S was listed as a playtester in the 5E core books, but otherwise had no apparent relationship to WotC. The "professional" response would have to have been to allow Legal, PR/marketing, and possibly HR (if he did have some kind of unknown relationship to WotC) to handle this. Mike Mearls did not take this option. He decided to get in there, and demand that the victims talk to him, so he in his magisterial capacity as lead D&D designer (!!!), could adjudge the merits of their claims. And it seems he "accidentally" sent all the details they provided him to Zak S. The "professional" or "rules-following" approach would have been better for literally everyone involved here.
Okay, I gotta push back on this, because it is not remotely what happened.

In the initial 2014 release of the PHB, RPGPundit and Zak S. were listed as consultants. At the time, Zak S had not been accused by anybody of sexual abuse. He was at the time a well-known and ENnie-winning RPG writer. He was known for being abrasive online, and had been banned from several forums, and some people accused him of instigating online harassment of those who disagreed with him. But in response to positive reaction to trans and LGBT+ inclusive language in the PHB, some said WotC should not get credit for such language when they had used homo/transphobic people like RPGPundit and Zak S as consultants.

Mearls said that "If anyone has any direct evidence of racism or sexism or any other form of discrimination on the part of people attached to D&D, please drop a line to me." It is not known what he did internally with such emails, whether he sent them to PR or HR (HR is unlikely, since Zak was not an employee of WotC), or anything. All we know is that he reported that people described harassment and marginalization, but he had not received evidence of Zak S using slurs: "I haven’t seen or received any evidence that Zak has made homo/transphobic or racist statements. I have heard from a number of people who feel harassed and marginalized in the gaming community. At the end of the day, the responsibility for working with Zak and RPGPundit, and more importantly not directly working with marginalized groups falls solely upon me"

Zak portrayed this as exoneration, despite the fact that Mearls' response indicated it was unlikely that WotC would work with him again. Some people questioned whether Mearls had shared the emails he had received with Zak. Mearls said that he had not. One person said that the burner account they had used to contact Mearls was now receiving harassment. It was then widely assumed and repeated that Mearls had forwarded the emails to Zak.

In 2019, Zak's longtime girlfriend accused him of sexual and emotional abuse. WotC then immediately removed his name from new printings and digital versions of the PHB, and put out a statement saying it regretted ever working with him.

Whether one believes that Mearls forwarded emails or not, (I personally can conceive of various other possibilities) his inquiry was about discriminatory statements, not about online harassment, and certainly not about sexual abuse, which was not known by anyone until five years later. And inasmuch as, at the time, how WotC would address possible discriminatory statements (e.g., not work with him again and/or remove his name from the credits) was Mearls' call as the head of the D&D division, it certainly was not outside his rubric to review the claims against Zak of such statements.
 

Ummm.... no? Considering as Head of PR, his job has basically nothing to do with, say, a designers job. Completely different departments.

Again, CONTEXT matters. The whole OGL thing was 2022. That means that he probably had no major problems with shareholders making his job difficult for most of the nine years he was there. Remember, WotC wasn't even a blip on shareholder radars until 2016, at the absolute earliest, and probably not until 2018. And, prior to the OGL thing, there weren't really all that many things going on with WotC that people were particularly up in arms about. Again, connect the dots here. He's pointing to shareholders being the problem. When did shareholders step into the light in regards to how WotC did it's business? About 2022 (ish).

The idea that WotC has been having major issues with the fandom for nine years is just not true in the slightest. Certainly not issues that could be connected to shareholders.
Context does matter. The context is that Tito didn't say a thing about the OGL scandal or ANY of the behavior of WotC. Any of the scanals, unethical behavior of the company. Nothing. His only statement was that he was upset that someone else was making money off of it, not him.

Again, crapping on everyone he worked with by implying that they are are just shilling still, now that he's above it. He wasn't some low level employee. He was a Directory. Out the door and crapping not just the people he worked with, but the sabordinates that worked for him. That's trash behavior.
 


Context does matter. The context is that Tito didn't say a thing about the OGL scandal or ANY of the behavior of WotC. Any of the scanals, unethical behavior of the company. Nothing. His only statement was that he was upset that someone else was making money off of it, not him.

Again, crapping on everyone he worked with by implying that they are are just shilling still, now that he's above it. He wasn't some low level employee. He was a Directory. Out the door and crapping not just the people he worked with, but the sabordinates that worked for him. That's trash behavior.
Wait, what?

A year of apology tours and he said "nothing"? Who do you think organized all that? Who do you think was the one who was being held responsible for fixing the PR disaster?

I really get the sense that people have no idea what Tito's job actually was.
 


Trending content

Related Articles

Remove ads

Trending content

Remove ads

Top