D&D 5E For those playing 2014 5e, how are you reacting to the 2024 update?

[MGibster]

We switched over to 2024. I'm finding overall it isn't significantly different from 2014 though there are a lot of little differences.

 

[Cap'n Kobold]

That is a decision that you can make, I suppose, though I think it's roughly on par with deciding to jump over a shark in a boat, if you'll pardon my uncouth language, and more deeply affirms my suspicion that those who thought it was a good idea should be in charge of nothing more important than what they'll have for dinner.

Bear in mind there was some hyperbole for the sake of humour in that statement I believe.
Lizardfolk scouts, farmers, merchants, warriors, priests, commoners etc. are all humanoids.
Lizardfolk Sovereigns and Geomancers however have "forged powerful bonds with the Elemental Plane of Earth, granting them magical connections to the cycle of growth and rebirth."

Same seems to go for things like Goblins, with most being humanoids, but the more "monstrous" ones newly from the feywild or outer planes are the bosses, minions etc still being fey.

 

[Shardstone]

We switched over to 2024. I'm finding overall it isn't significantly different from 2014 though there are a lot of little differences.

This is my experience and it makes me question why so many people want to call this a completely new edition so badly. It really is just an updated/revised version of 5E. It still feels like 5E, just IMO better designed in some areas. If you liked 5E, I don't know why you wouldn't like 5R. And because it actually IS backwards compatible, you could sub out certain rules no problem.

 

[Zardnaar]

This is my experience and it makes me question why so many people want to call this a completely new edition so badly. It really is just an updated/revised version of 5E. It still feels like 5E, just IMO better designed in some areas. If you liked 5E, I don't know why you wouldn't like 5R. And because it actually IS backwards compatible, you could sub out certain rules no problem.

It's more complicated and the power level it's very noticeable in terms of it being higher.

 

[Greg K]

Does anyone know why diseases were dropped from the 5.24 edition (looking at the Paladin and Monk losing immunity which is good, but I would be for Resistance if disease were a thing)? Is there any discussion on diseases in the DMG?

 

[MGibster]

This is my experience and it makes me question why so many people want to call this a completely new edition so badly. It really is just an updated/revised version of 5E. It still feels like 5E, just IMO better designed in some areas. If you liked 5E, I don't know why you wouldn't like 5R. And because it actually IS backwards compatible, you could sub out certain rules no problem.

I don't consider it to be backwards compatible though conversion isn't all that difficult. If I were to try to mix and match some of the small differences it'd just be a pain in the tuchus. The biggest problem I have in my current campaign is all but one of my players is using D&D Beyond instead of good old fashioned books, pen & paper, and dice. Two of them are relatively new to D&D having come from Pathfinder while a third hasn't played a lot of D&D in years and I'm starting to grow a little impatient when they don't know what their own character can do or how to interface with D&D Beyond.

 

[kayakingpoodle]

I don't consider it to be backwards compatible though conversion isn't all that difficult. If I were to try to mix and match some of the small differences it'd just be a pain in the tuchus. The biggest problem I have in my current campaign is all but one of my players is using D&D Beyond instead of good old fashioned books, pen & paper, and dice. Two of them are relatively new to D&D having come from Pathfinder while a third hasn't played a lot of D&D in years and I'm starting to grow a little impatient when they don't know what their own character can do or how to interface with D&D Beyond.

That has been my experience, 5e24 severely disrupted the DDB tools for 5e14. After going back to p&p the player groups im in are actually more engaged and know how to play their characters way better than when we used DDB. A lot more play and a lot less waiting for someone to click, scroll, hover and read. A good character sheet and spell cards are proving to be a far better experience than DDB, at least at our tables.

I think wizbro will come to regret not having used a toggle on the 24e stuff on DDB from the start, and just stop offering the 14 rules in the marketplace. Though that would have required far better 24e books than were rolled out.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

This is my experience and it makes me question why so many people want to call this a completely new edition so badly. It really is just an updated/revised version of 5E. It still feels like 5E, just IMO better designed in some areas. If you liked 5E, I don't know why you wouldn't like 5R. And because it actually IS backwards compatible, you could sub out certain rules no problem.

I mean, there's a reason I've consistently called it 5.5e (and why I always used quotation marks on "One D&D"--that one because I despise such blatant and ridiculous marketing corp-speak.)

It's not a new edition. But it's also not the same edition. It's an iterative development that, in WotC's opinion, addresses the most significant actually-addressable issues with the original release. We had one of those things before. It was called 3.5e. I see no reason to not continue using this convention, and many reasons to stick with it.

 

[SpellObjectEnthusiast]

That has been my experience, 5e24 severely disrupted the DDB tools for 5e14. After going back to p&p the player groups im in are actually more engaged and know how to play their characters way better than when we used DDB. A lot more play and a lot less waiting for someone to click, scroll, hover and read. A good character sheet and spell cards are proving to be a far better experience than DDB, at least at our tables.

I think wizbro will come to regret not having used a toggle on the 24e stuff on DDB from the start, and just stop offering the 14 rules in the marketplace. Though that would have required far better 24e books than were rolled out.

D&DBeyond tends to just make the play experience worse, IMO. It automates just enough things that players can get away with not knowing whats going on.

 

[Shardstone]

I mean, there's a reason I've consistently called it 5.5e (and why I always used quotation marks on "One D&D"--that one because I despise such blatant and ridiculous marketing corp-speak.)

It's not a new edition. But it's also not the same edition. It's an iterative development that, in WotC's opinion, addresses the most significant actually-addressable issues with the original release. We had one of those things before. It was called 3.5e. I see no reason to not continue using this convention, and many reasons to stick with it.

I think 5R sounds better kekekee