D&D 5E Fighter should be called Knight and Monk Should be called Fighter, change my mind

[Bedrockgames]

psi warrior, rune knight, EK all are more esoteric that lets say Champion or Battlemaster

But the generic fighter isn't esoteric

 

[TiQuinn]

Monk should be Pugilist. Which specifically is about unarmed combat.

Fighter is too generic for that.

Pugilism specifically refers to boxing though.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Pugilism specifically refers to boxing though.

I think if you want a generic term for unarmed you could use something like martial artist, hand to hand fighter, or unarmed fighter. Or you could have say Striker-Grappler. Martial artist probably encompasses the broadest range of unarmed styles

 

[CreamCloud0]

Monk should be Pugilist. Which specifically is about unarmed combat.

Fighter is too generic for that.

Do we want the monk to explicitly be about unarmed combat though? I think the monk is better serving as a semi-mystical mobile skirmisher and that concept isn’t limited to being a pure unarmed combatant, kensei is a popular subclass.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Do we want the monk to explicitly be about unarmed combat though? I think the monk is better serving as a semi-mystical mobile skirmisher and that concept isn’t limited to being a pure unarmed combatant, kensei is a popular subclass.

Yeah, I feel like if you strip out the other elements, the monk just becomes an MMA fighter or something

 

[TiQuinn]

Do we want the monk to explicitly be about unarmed combat though? I think the monk is better serving as a semi-mystical mobile skirmisher and that concept isn’t limited to being a pure unarmed combatant, kensei is a popular subclass.

Kensai would probably be better suited as a fighter subclass. Beyond that, there's no reason a martial artist couldn't be mystical as well.

 

[Greg K]

I'd split Fighter into soldier and lancer (cavaliers, cataphract, samurai, etc). I would then add a martial artist class for non-woodsy unarmored and light armored warriors (e.g. corsair/pirates, pugilists, kensei swashbucklers). Monks would then become a ki based subclass of martial artist or remain their own class.

 

[Juxtapozbliss]

“Knight” is a gendered word. I think it should be left behind.

 

[Greg K]

“Knight” is a gendered word. I think it should be left behind.

Yet, there were some orders that allowed females. There was also the Order of the Hatchet which was established after a group of women defended their town from Muslims.
Also, we are dealing with a fantasy game, so there is no reason that women need be excluded from being knights.

 

[FrogReaver]

“Knight” is a gendered word. I think it should be left behind.

What makes it a gendered word?