I am preparing the Madness of Gardmore Abbey adventure for my campaign, which is playing in the Forgotten Realms. The adventure has some locations like "Sun Hall of Pelor" or "Arena of Kord" that refer to gods of the 4E Points of Light pantheon. And I would like to use Forgotten Realms gods instead. Before I start long "theological" studies on the matter, I was wondering if somebody else might already have done that job, but couldn't find anything on the forums or by Google. Do you know of an equivalence list between 4E gods and Forgotten Realms gods somewhere?
D&D 4E Equivalence of 4E Points of Light and Forgotten Realms gods
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CM
Adventurer
There are very few direct matches, but some are pretty close (bolded)
Avandra (Change, Freedom, Luck)::Ilmater (Freedom, Hope) or Tymora (Change, Luck)
Bahamut (Hope, Justice, Protection)::Amaunator (Civilization, Justice, Sun) or Torm (Civilization, Justice, Protection)
Corellon: same for elves/eladrin, or Selûne (Arcana, Change, Moon)
Erathis (Civilization, Creation, Justice)::Gond (Creation, Knowledge), or Waukeen (Civilization, Knowledge)
Ioun (Fate, Knowledge, Skill)::Oghma (Knowledge, Skill, Trickery), or Sune (Love, Skill, Trickery)
Kord (Storm, Strength, War)::Tempus (Protection, Strength, War), or Valkur (patron of sailors)
Melora (Life, Sea, Wilderness)::Silvanus (Life, Storm, Wilderness), Mielikki (Freedom, Wilderness), or Chauntea (Earth, Hope, Life)
Moradin::same for dwarves, or Torm (Civilizaton, Justice, Protection)
Pelor (Hope, Life, Sun)::Amaunator (Civilization, Justice, Sun), Ilmater (Freedom, Hope), or Chauntea (Earth, Hope, Life)
Sehanine (Love, Moon, Trickery)::same for elves/eladrin, or Selûne (Arcana, Change, Moon), or Sune (Love, Skill, Trickery)
Raven Queen (Death, Fate, Winter)::Kelemvor (Death, Fate, Justice), or for winter aspect: Auril (Storm, Winter)
Asmodeus (Civilization, Tyranny)::same
Bane (Skill, War)::Same
Tiamat (Strife, Vengeance)::same, or Loviatar (Torment, Vengeance), or Hoar (exarch of retribution), or Cyric (Madness, Strife, Trickery)
Torog (Earth, Torment)::Ghaunadaur (Destruction, Earth, Madness), or Loviatar (Torment, Vengeance)
Vecna (Knowledge, Undeath)::Shar (Darkness, Knowledge, Undeath)
Zehir (Darkness, Poison)::Sseth (Arcana, Darkness), or Talona (Destruction, Poison), or Lolth (Darkness, Poison, Strife)
Avandra (Change, Freedom, Luck)::Ilmater (Freedom, Hope) or Tymora (Change, Luck)
Bahamut (Hope, Justice, Protection)::Amaunator (Civilization, Justice, Sun) or Torm (Civilization, Justice, Protection)
Corellon: same for elves/eladrin, or Selûne (Arcana, Change, Moon)
Erathis (Civilization, Creation, Justice)::Gond (Creation, Knowledge), or Waukeen (Civilization, Knowledge)
Ioun (Fate, Knowledge, Skill)::Oghma (Knowledge, Skill, Trickery), or Sune (Love, Skill, Trickery)
Kord (Storm, Strength, War)::Tempus (Protection, Strength, War), or Valkur (patron of sailors)
Melora (Life, Sea, Wilderness)::Silvanus (Life, Storm, Wilderness), Mielikki (Freedom, Wilderness), or Chauntea (Earth, Hope, Life)
Moradin::same for dwarves, or Torm (Civilizaton, Justice, Protection)
Pelor (Hope, Life, Sun)::Amaunator (Civilization, Justice, Sun), Ilmater (Freedom, Hope), or Chauntea (Earth, Hope, Life)
Sehanine (Love, Moon, Trickery)::same for elves/eladrin, or Selûne (Arcana, Change, Moon), or Sune (Love, Skill, Trickery)
Raven Queen (Death, Fate, Winter)::Kelemvor (Death, Fate, Justice), or for winter aspect: Auril (Storm, Winter)
Asmodeus (Civilization, Tyranny)::same
Bane (Skill, War)::Same
Tiamat (Strife, Vengeance)::same, or Loviatar (Torment, Vengeance), or Hoar (exarch of retribution), or Cyric (Madness, Strife, Trickery)
Torog (Earth, Torment)::Ghaunadaur (Destruction, Earth, Madness), or Loviatar (Torment, Vengeance)
Vecna (Knowledge, Undeath)::Shar (Darkness, Knowledge, Undeath)
Zehir (Darkness, Poison)::Sseth (Arcana, Darkness), or Talona (Destruction, Poison), or Lolth (Darkness, Poison, Strife)
Phototoxin
Explorer
[h=3]The main issue is that FR have nearly 1 god per porfolio , whereas the core gods have multiple portfolios that overlap. The important thing is to identify the main 'aspect' so while Shar has darkness (a main identifier) she also has knowlege/secrets and undeath to an extent, so she'd be a good Vecna. While Zehir/Set has darkness, he also has poison - thankfully he used to exist in Forgotten realms so can port straight over.
Avandra - Tymora - luck and travel
Bahamut -Same
Moradin - Same
Pelor - Amaunator
Corellon - Same.
Erathis - Torm - order and law, maybe Waukeen. (Depends if you want a more ordered civilisation aspect or a more building/creating new places aspect)
Ioun - Oghma
Kord - Talos in terms of storms but he's crazy and evil so I think Tempus the god of battle is the best fit.
Melora - Mielikki or Chauntea, Chauntea matches more closely in terms of earthmother factor
Raven Queen -Kelemvor or Shar if you want the whole night/death thing, but she's better as Vecna. Auril for cold aspect too but the Raven Queen is mainly used as the death goddess so Kelemvor is better and maybe add a 'side shrine to auril' in the fluff since Auril is for Cold,
Sehanine - Selune or Sune. I would go Selune simply to balance Shar if you are doing the forgotten realms. The hippy love moon goddess matches Selune in may ways, Sune is mostly just love, Selune is more in depth.
Asmodeus - Same
Bane - Same
Gruumsh - Same
Lolth - Same.
Tharizdun - Cyric.(CrAzY guy)
Tiamat - Same.
Torog - Lovitar - some crossover with shar
Vecna - Shar
Zehir - Same or Set - some crossover with Shar
The main thing is to be aware of the pantheons and where they overlap and where they don't. So for example when you're using Selune as Sehanine don't mentione the love aspect, save that for if Sune becomes relevant.
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Avandra - Tymora - luck and travel
Bahamut -Same
Moradin - Same
Pelor - Amaunator
Corellon - Same.
Erathis - Torm - order and law, maybe Waukeen. (Depends if you want a more ordered civilisation aspect or a more building/creating new places aspect)
Ioun - Oghma
Kord - Talos in terms of storms but he's crazy and evil so I think Tempus the god of battle is the best fit.
Melora - Mielikki or Chauntea, Chauntea matches more closely in terms of earthmother factor
Raven Queen -Kelemvor or Shar if you want the whole night/death thing, but she's better as Vecna. Auril for cold aspect too but the Raven Queen is mainly used as the death goddess so Kelemvor is better and maybe add a 'side shrine to auril' in the fluff since Auril is for Cold,
Sehanine - Selune or Sune. I would go Selune simply to balance Shar if you are doing the forgotten realms. The hippy love moon goddess matches Selune in may ways, Sune is mostly just love, Selune is more in depth.
Asmodeus - Same
Bane - Same
Gruumsh - Same
Lolth - Same.
Tharizdun - Cyric.(CrAzY guy)
Tiamat - Same.
Torog - Lovitar - some crossover with shar
Vecna - Shar
Zehir - Same or Set - some crossover with Shar
The main thing is to be aware of the pantheons and where they overlap and where they don't. So for example when you're using Selune as Sehanine don't mentione the love aspect, save that for if Sune becomes relevant.
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cavalier973
Hero
What about Avandra = Waukeen?
Avandra = Trade
Waukeen = Coins and Wealth
Avandra = Trade
Waukeen = Coins and Wealth
