[Edited] Brotherhood of the Wolf: Martial arts out of place?
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JoeGKushner
Adventurer
My friends and I saw it in the theater and we all own a copy of the standard American DVD (1 disk damn you!) One thing that we love is that crazy whip-sword. Between the movie and Soul Caliber 2 with it's Ivy character, I've got one player whose dying to find such a weapon. I think that SL: Warrens of the Ratmen has something similiar to that but I'll have to double check.
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
Cool Movie IMO - though I think I phased out in the middle when the fake beast was taken to Paris bit oh well -
It was fun even with subtitles (my French is abysmal) great banter, great fights
Oh did the Beast remind anyone else of a Krenshar?
and Renaisance Ranger (heh hadn't picked that!)
(PS apparently the real historic beast may have been the last of the native european Hyaena (bones have been found in the region - but who knows now right))
It was fun even with subtitles (my French is abysmal) great banter, great fights
Oh did the Beast remind anyone else of a Krenshar?
and Renaisance Ranger (heh hadn't picked that!)
(PS apparently the real historic beast may have been the last of the native european Hyaena (bones have been found in the region - but who knows now right))
Klaus
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To me the beast looked just like a Howler (you know, the abyssal beast with quills coming out of their back). In fact, that movie convinved me a Howler is a great monster (and once again, would fit in nicely within Ravenloft, complete with a sorcerous master that returned maimed from an expedition to Souragne or the Verdurous Lands).
Re: Renaissance Ranger - Gregoire de Fronsac has ranks in Knowledge (nature), can hide and wield two blades. He's a perfect example of a non-Aragorn-ish ranger!
Also, Mani is a monk/druid if I ever saw one!
Re: Renaissance Ranger - Gregoire de Fronsac has ranks in Knowledge (nature), can hide and wield two blades. He's a perfect example of a non-Aragorn-ish ranger!
Also, Mani is a monk/druid if I ever saw one!
John Q. Mayhem
Explorer
Yeah, that monster rocked most awesomely. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a lion. The fake-one-arm-man was supposed to have had his arm taken off by a lion, the beastie was found in Africa, it looked about the right size. Hyena-thing's a good idea. Has anyone got a link where I can find out more about the legend?
blackshirt5
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Funny this thread should pop up; I'm watching the movie right now while working on my campaign worlds.
I love this movie. I can't overstate that. Fronsac-Great. Marianne-Hot. Mani-Arsekicking goodness. Jean-Francois-Whip-Sword! Gotta love(and respect, and fear) the Whip-Sword. Great plot, it keeps me engaged, AND you get to see the Monica Bellucci as a prostitute who works for the Vatican. Priceless.
P.S. Am I the only one who didn't know that Vincent Cassel(Jean-Francois Morangias) and Monica Bellucci are married?
I love this movie. I can't overstate that. Fronsac-Great. Marianne-Hot. Mani-Arsekicking goodness. Jean-Francois-Whip-Sword! Gotta love(and respect, and fear) the Whip-Sword. Great plot, it keeps me engaged, AND you get to see the Monica Bellucci as a prostitute who works for the Vatican. Priceless.
P.S. Am I the only one who didn't know that Vincent Cassel(Jean-Francois Morangias) and Monica Bellucci are married?
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Darrin Drader
Explorer
I'm pretty sure that the beast was supposed to be a lion. You can tell when you get a look at the eyes beneath the armor.
Tars Tarkus
First Post
Yep, It's a lion.
Red Baron
First Post
Cool. Glad to see so many others who liked the film as well.
But I'm even more curious, now: Have eastern martial arts so inundated western culture that nobody raises an eyebrow anymore when they are dumped willy-nilly into inappropriate settings? I'm as big a martial arts buff as the next guy (and probably more so than many), but when I see a supposed officer of the French army and an Iroquois holy man who both fight like they're straight from Bangkok, it does awful things to my suspension of disbelief.
Why, if a filmmaker goes to the trouble of extensive costumes, sets, et al. for a period film, would he then nix all that by allowing such a blatant anachronism?
Don't get me wrong -- I really did enjoy this film quite a bit (and how can Monica Bellucci not increase one's enjoyment...? But let that pass...). I guess maybe I just have a hard time believing there aren't any choreographers out there capable of putting together believable fights with swords and knives that don't involve cartwheels, butterfly kicks, and other plainly Asian-flavored techniques.
Am I really in that much of a minority here? (Nothing against those who disagree, of course -- I'm just a little surprised, that's all.)
But I'm even more curious, now: Have eastern martial arts so inundated western culture that nobody raises an eyebrow anymore when they are dumped willy-nilly into inappropriate settings? I'm as big a martial arts buff as the next guy (and probably more so than many), but when I see a supposed officer of the French army and an Iroquois holy man who both fight like they're straight from Bangkok, it does awful things to my suspension of disbelief.
Why, if a filmmaker goes to the trouble of extensive costumes, sets, et al. for a period film, would he then nix all that by allowing such a blatant anachronism?
Don't get me wrong -- I really did enjoy this film quite a bit (and how can Monica Bellucci not increase one's enjoyment...? But let that pass...). I guess maybe I just have a hard time believing there aren't any choreographers out there capable of putting together believable fights with swords and knives that don't involve cartwheels, butterfly kicks, and other plainly Asian-flavored techniques.
Am I really in that much of a minority here? (Nothing against those who disagree, of course -- I'm just a little surprised, that's all.)
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