Best Superman Film

Which is the best Superman film?

  • Superman I

    Votes: 32 36.8%
  • Superman II

    Votes: 49 56.3%
  • Superman III

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Supergirl

    Votes: 3 3.4%

I would have to say Lois & Clark or Smallville.

The Kryptonian Return was pretty good in L&C.

ohhhh, Movies. :) Tough call since I think the shows were better.
 

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Although I agree that Superman I is the better movie, I voted for II anyway. :p I just like fight scenes. Also, it has the totally awesome scene when Superman pulls the switcheroo on Zod, then crushes his hand -- the music swells (yay, John Williams!) and Zod goes "Aaaah!" in a girly voice. Oh yeah. That scene RULES.
 

I have to agree with Morrus that I and II together are the best. III and IV sucked. And Supergirl? Lets not go there.

But I and II rule. Everything about them is great, from the action, to the best throwdown, tear up the city, superhero fight ever put on screen, to Superman turning back time. Slightly overkill but very powerful emotionally.

And all the great quotes! I prefer Lex as a more serious villain but even so, the dialogue was just phenomenal.

"Why do you say these things, when you know I will kill you for it?"
"Would you care to step outside?"
"Otisburg?"
"Kneel before Zod!"
"Whoa! Thats a BAD outfit!"
"You've got me. But whose got you?"
"All of these incredible powers...and I couldn't save him..."
"Son, if there's one thing I know, its that you are here for a reason!"
 

The original, beyond a doubt.

Superman II is a good movie, but I've never liked it as much as the original.

Superman III is just way too silly. However, there's the cool scene where Clark fights Superman after the fake kryptonite turns Superman evil.

Superman IV is a boring, stupid anti-nuke movie. At least III has some value with its cheesy humor.

Supergirl was not bad, but somewhat forgettable.
 
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Mouseferatu said:
And no matter how cheesy the powers were, they still weren't nearly as goofy as Superman turning back time by making the Earth spin backwards. That one scene seriously lowers the entire movie in my estimation.

That scene never really bothered me.
 

Superman III

*raises hand*

That was me who voted for #3. I do think Superman 1-2 was better than the schlock that came after it, but I find myself still watching #3 even now. The others are good, but I can't seem to watch them over and over. But #3 has Richard Pryor, some crazy villians who aren't superpowerful or masterminds, and a computer that tries to take over the world. It's wonderful cheese with some really heroic scenes too.

To help make the case:
In #1 Lex knows that Superman cannot beat two nuclear missiles, only one. So Superman must -stop time- to actually save both the West coast and his newfound love. This seems more of a plot device than any real moral victory. [but I will admit it fits into the 1st film as a continual discovery of his powers]

In #2 Superman fights three supervillians each nearly as powerful as himself. In the end, he beats them through quick thinking and a bit of deception. Not as Deus Ex Machina as the first film, but deception has never felt like Superman's style to me.

In #3 however, Superman's enemy, his real enemy, is his himself. Before he can try and defeat the two millionaire villians he must face the horror of what he has let himself become. This is played out, it seems, as a metaphor of ego vs. alterego. I'm not even sure if what we see on screen is what really happens in the *real* world. It's more through Superman's/Clark's own point of view(s).

It's in this crucial scene where the common man, but also the one who fights for truth and justice, must overcome the all-powerful, yet all-corrupted superman. I know that watching it, this scene can come off as full of cheese, but the victory of Clark (finally a real superhero again) is the climax of the movie. I still feel pride swell in my chest when I watch it.

The rest of the film is just denouement, but still pretty fun. In a nice parallel to the first fight, the villians fail in the last scenes because of their own greed and corruption. The power they hope to harnass (the "super"computer) actually becomes a monster and takes over one of their number.
[this is actually one of the scariest movie scenes from childhood. The act of that computer taking over and transforming that harridan:) of a woman henchman always scares the bejeezus out of me.]

So, it seems Superman is just there to mop up the after effects. But in reality he had already won the fight. No real comic book style fight scenes, but still pretty heroic in my mind. The layer of velveeta over it all just adds the the fact that it really needs to be viewed more as camp than as serious drama. But cheese ran through every Superman film.*

So, uh, yeah. Superman III rocked!


*(I cannot really say with Supergirl, though, as I've never seen the film)
 

Morrus said:
I think that Superman I & II, put together, make the best superhero movie ever, despite some terrible flaws.

One of my main peeves, though, is the portrayal of Lex Luthor as a comedy villain.

I'm sorry but you are soooo misguided! They were barely watchable then and now well..............

I just couldn't stand the costume, his greased hair; urgh it was sickening. Even those three bad guys were f*****n' gay in their sparkly black,(I'm sure they were sequined), costumes!

Give me Danger Mouse or even Mighty Mouse, any day!
 

I'll agree with whoever said "Smallville" or "Lois & Clark". The movies are nice and all, but they never struck me particularly well.

I'm probably going to wander into heresy here, but I've actually never particularly cared for Christopher Reeve as Superman. He just didn't fit the mold, IMO. Not sure why, though. And I really didn't like Margot Kidder as Lois (or any other role in which I've seen her).
 

While I agree with Margot Kidder being a suboptimal Lois Lane, Christopher Reeve totally nailed the Superman/Clark Kent part (doing both identities equally well isn't something most actor got right). A much better fit than Dean Cain (never cared much for him as Supes). Now Teri Hatcher... ;)
 

Mouseferatu said:
I had to go with II. True, they invented a whole bunch of new powers that really made no sense; while not as bad as the "Repair The Great Wall of China Vision" from IV, they still detracted from the movie. But...

It had a believable threat, which the first movie really didn't. And no matter how cheesy the powers were, they still weren't nearly as goofy as Superman turning back time by making the Earth spin backwards. That one scene seriously lowers the entire movie in my estimation.
Agree with this completely.
 

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