kitcik
Adventurer
See post #33.
Arcane Prestige class needed.
- Thread starter Thrallherd
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See post #33.
Thrallherd
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If Programmed Amnesia is cast on a Dread Necromancer, and they choose to turn him good, he turns good. He still has Dread Necromancer levels, he is good, and according to RAW, there are no penalties. If we go by what most classes say as a penalty from alignment change, then he can no longer take levels in Dread Necromancer. Which he doesn't. So there, the entire problem is nonexistent.
Wyvernhand
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Dandu
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Then I guess his pants will forever be on fire.
Thrallherd
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Ahh man! These are my good pants too!
Ashtagon
Adventurer
Sanctum Spell (Tome and Blood) requires any other meta-magic feat as a prerequisite. It also only functions while you are within your designated sanctum area. In other words, leave your front door and you cease qualifying for your prestige class. This feat was never updated to 3.5 edition.
Dragon's Blood Pool (Complete Mage site) has a prerequisite to work: "To gain the benefits of a dragonsblood pool, a creature must be able to spontaneously cast at least one spell of 2nd level or higher." I don't see a 1st level dread necro able to do that, except with the Sanctum Spell feat, which as noted, means he would only qualify while within his designated sanctum.
Necropolitan (Libris Mortis) doesn't affect your feats. Not quite sure why this is in the build. However, the creature's type does change to undead, which would remove the dragon type. An oversight?
dragonwrought (Races of the Dragon feat): Thsi feat, among other benefits, grants the dragon type.
kobold (srd): A kobold character does not gain any bonus feats for its race. So a 1st level kobold has one feat.
Child of Eberron (Dragons of Eberron draconic faith): Adds druid spells to the arcane spell list. However, "All true dragons have the potential to use arcane magic. Most have the ability to select spells from the cleric spell list and certain domains. This variant rule instead provides a dragon with a special ability based on the Sovereign archetype it chooses to follow. This special ability replaces the optional spell selection abilities a dragon normally possesses; as such, a silver dragon that adopts the child of Eberron archetype can no longer cast cleric spells or those from the Air, Good, Law, and Sun domains." I'm not at all sure what natural spell-casting ability this character is intended to be sacrificing. I honestly don't think he qualifies for the optional rule. Note that simply having the dragon type does not make a character a "true dragon" -- the wyvern (srd) is an example of such.
So, the build has two feats specified, one of which requires any meta-magic feat as a prerequisite. How does a 1st level character get three feats? As far as I can tell, this character should only have one feat at 1st level. What have I missed?
(For reference, no book listed has any official errata)
tl;dr - even ignoring the alignment restrictions, the build fails on account of not having enough feats to walk and chew gum. Even ignoring the feat requirement too, it only qualifies for the prestige class while staying at home in bed with a mug of hot cocoa. But ignore the alignment, feat, and mobility restrictions, and this build absolutely rocks!
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Wyvernhand
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Reprinted in Complete Arcane, BTW...Tome and Blood is 3.0, Complete Arcane is 3.5. Still, the feat didn't change, just wanted to include this for completeness. Cause if you are gonna criticize something, at least do the homework.
Partially correct. Prereqs don't care about what you are able to do AT THAT MOMENT, however. Otherwise most Spellcasting PrCs would turn off after you cast all of your daily spells. Afterall, if you cast all of your 3rd+ level spells, you can no longer cast 3rd level spells, right? Wrong. If you leave your sanctum, your feats and classes don't all turn off, just the same as they won't when you've cast all of your 3rd+ level spells for the day.
The caster in question COULD build his sanctum around a Dragonsblood Pool, or his MASTER could have, and the apprentice declares his master's sanctum as his own. There are very few rules about what qualifies as a "sanctum", and it doesn't even have to be a building. A druid grove could be a sanctum, as could a cave or "non-wizard tower" location.
Regardless, the OP could have qualified with Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten Spell as well, if needed. Heighten Spell serves as the prereq for Sanctum Spell. Versatile Spellcaster provides the ability to cast a 1st level spell Heighened to 2nd level from a 2nd level slot, which Sanctum spell treats as a 3rd level spell. Dragonsblood Pool is only really needed for 4th level entry PrCs like War Weaver. Dragonsblood Pool is a little more high OP, almost theoretical op level, and a little harder to squeek by, but the Versatile Spellcaster route is rock solid.
True dragons are defined in Races of the Dragon as creature with the Dragon type who gain power with age catagories. A venerable Dragonwraught Kobold is more powerful than an adult Dragonwraught Kobold, since bonuses acrue while penalties do not. Thus, they meet all of the prereqs.
Unearthed Arcana has flaws. A character can typically take up to 2 flaws to gain up to 2 bonus feats. 1 base + 2 bonus = 3 feats. Perfectly fine at 1st level, assuming those rules are used.
Complete Arcane is essentially errata for Tome and Blood, given that most of the content in TaB was updated in CArcane. Regardless, nothing REALLY changed.
tl;dr Depending on interpretation, everything about this build is fine. Just because you don't understand or agree with everything involved in it doesn't mean the OP and the OP's DM aren't ok with it. I'm guessing the OP's DM knows exactly what the OP is doing.
Empirate
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Leave off already, Visi. How many people need to tell you that? You're starting to be trolling here.
