We Still Need ORC

[Reynard]

Sounds more like a recipe to get the OGL deemed unenforceable by a judge. Product Identity is not an actual legal concept.

But it is defined in the contract.

Anway, it isn't important. My point is just this: Open Gaming as not just a way to make money but an actually philosophical perspective and active artistic endeavor is worth the trouble, and having an unimpeachable document in support of that has value -- even if "technically legally" it isn't necessary. Moreover, it is worth abandoning WotC entirely from an Open Gaming perspective and never again letting them define the terms.

 

[Parmandur]

But it is defined in the contract.

Anway, it isn't important. My point is just this: Open Gaming as not just a way to make money but an actually philosophical perspective and active artistic endeavor is worth the trouble, and having an unimpeachable document in support of that has value -- even if "technically legally" it isn't necessary. Moreover, it is worth abandoning WotC entirely from an Open Gaming perspective and never again letting them define the terms.

I mean, if they join the ORC that's just working as intended by Paizo and company. And since these are business set up to make money, I doubt too many will complain of the market leader is open for use.

 

[Reynard]

I mean, if they join the ORC that's just working as intended by Paizo and company. And since these are business set up to make money, I doubt too many will complain of the market leader is open for use.

But as you just argued: we don;t need them. they put the SRD in Creative Commons.

Or are you maybe suggesting all is not sunshine and rainbows as it is?

 

[mamba]

But as you just argued: we don;t need them. they put the SRD in Creative Commons.

Or are you maybe suggesting all is not sunshine and rainbows as it is?

the more licenses the SRD is under, the better, as far as I am concerned

 

[Parmandur]

But as you just argued: we don;t need them. they put the SRD in Creative Commons.

Or are you maybe suggesting all is not sunshine and rainbows as it is?

Never sunshine and rainbows: life is pain, anyone who says different is trying to sell you something.

Who "needs" any of this? RPGs existed decades with"Open Gaming," but it's nice to have. If ORC takes off and creators ate able to make products for D&D, great.

 

[Reynard]

Who "needs" any of this? RPGs existed decades with"Open Gaming," but it's nice to have. If ORC takes off and creators ate able to make products for D&D, great

First, just because it took a while for an idea to appear doesn't mean it isn't good. Open Gaming was a positive development in the hobby and industry.

Second, this isn't just about D&D any more. Having a trusted, secure standard across the industry is a good thing for publishers, creators and consumers.

 

[Parmandur]

First, just because it took a while for an idea to appear doesn't mean it isn't good. Open Gaming was a positive development in the hobby and industry.

Second, this isn't just about D&D any more. Having a trusted, secure standard across the industry is a good thing for publishers, creators and consumers.

Sure, but mu h more so if D&D is available under terms "Open Gaming" enthusiasts prefer to CC.

 

[Reynard]

Sure, but mu h more so if D&D is available under terms "Open Gaming" enthusiasts prefer to CC.

Yeah, like ORC*.

Why do you keep arguing about it?

*presumably

 

[bedir than]

You see "open gaming" is the more closed system that depends on a just trust us vibe, whereas Creative Commons is the actually open system, with the law on its side.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah, like ORC*.

Why do you keep arguing about it?

*presumably

Who's arguing...? I'm just reporting that WotC is talking about putting D&D into ORC. Interesting times.