D&D 4E Tropes of the Nentir Vale

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

He just killed Tuern. The other brother, Kord, is still alive and well.

I forgot that it was Kord by a different name - that is why I thought he was dead

 

[Hexmage-EN]

Here's an excerpt from the 4E Tomb of Horrors regarding the shrine to the unknown goddess.

I'm VERY curious if this being had any relation to Zuggtmoy.

How appropriate that a demon who infests victims and corpses with fungi would herself be a former goddess infested by her own fungi to cheat death.

 

[Zeromaru X]

Do you have the page number? Going to update my list of gods in the Piazza,

 

[Hexmage-EN]

Do you have the page number? Going to update my list of gods in the Piazza,

Pages 146 and 147 (Encounter D7: Black Pool).

Hespotherad's a few pages back on 142 and 143 (Encounter D5: Wild Game).

 

[cavalier973]

This ambiguity is actually a strength of the setting. Makes these events feel even more mythical!

Exactly So.

Nentir Vale scholars probably argue endlessly over this, with each faction bringing heaps of ancient documents written by prophets and mystics and supposedly this scroll here was handed to St. Herkamer by an angel of Prior and no you're wrong, Asmodeus is actually He-Who-Was after drinking a Jeckyl and Hyde potion and the Shadowfell is real but the Feywild is a myth and that's exactly right except the opposite--you get the idea.

 

[Undrave]

Wasn't his imprisonment a curse from He-Who-Was or am I mistaken?

Yup it turns out it was a curse by He-Who-Was that trapped him and his devils but... and the wording is a bit unclear... I think he's not trapped there anymore? Asmodeus struck a deal with the other Gods, because they needed his skills at war, that he would retain his former Master's power "until the Primordials are vanquished" which, obviously, hasn't happened yet.

MAN! There is SO much cool stuff in 'The Plane Above'! I completely forgot about the QUOM! They're a race from a former dominion who was also a god itself that was blown up when Bahamut fought a Primordial of Nothingness! Now they're going all over the Astral Sea and beyond to gather every little fragments of the domain out there and put their home back together... and they go around on COMET SHIPS!

This book is so much fun to read...

 

[Undrave]

Exactly So.

Nentir Vale scholars probably argue endlessly over this, with each faction bringing heaps of ancient documents written by prophets and mystics and supposedly this scroll here was handed to St. Herkamer by an angel of Prior and no you're wrong, Asmodeus is actually He-Who-Was after drinking a Jeckyl and Hyde potion and the Shadowfell is real but the Feywild is a myth and that's exactly right except the opposite--you get the idea.

Right at the start of the section on Chernoggar, in 'The Plane Above', it mentions that Bane was "either a mortal hero or a demigod who slew Tuern", and that "Confusion over Bane's identity comes from several sources, including his goblin worshipers, which want to think of him as a brother to both Kord and Tuern for reasons connected to goblins' extended family social structure".

This is some good stuff!

 

[dave2008]

Right at the start of the section on Chernoggar, in 'The Plane Above', it mentions that Bane was "either a mortal hero or a demigod who clew Tuern", and that "Confusion over Bane's identity comes from several sources, including his goblin worshipers, which want to think of him as a brother to both Kord and Tuern for reasons connected to goblins' extended family social structure".

This is some good stuff!

Which obviously differs quite a bite from the article in Dragon Magazine where he was the first to vanquish a primordial in single combat and led the celestial armies against the primordials.

 

[Undrave]

Which obviously differs quite a bite from the article in Dragon Magazine where he was the first to vanquish a primordial in single combat and led the celestial armies against the primordials.

It still says that Bane led the armies against the Primordial. He’s basically the best strategist of the lot, only Asmodeus seems to be anywhere near (other gods secretly consulted with Asmodeus on war related things while he was stuck in Hell!).

 

[dave2008]

It still says that Bane led the armies against the Primordial. He’s basically the best strategist of the lot, only Asmodeus seems to be anywhere near (other gods secretly consulted with Asmodeus on war related things while he was stuck in Hell!).

My real point was that a mortal or demigod couldn't defeat a primordial in single combat like bane did.