Jack Haggerty
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Am I correct in assuming that the Conjuration/Evocation Spell being emulated is chosen when the spell is cast and not when the spell is prepared?
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Shadow Conjurations & Shadow Evocations...
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Jack Haggerty
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Re: Re: Shadow Conjurations & Shadow Evocations...
Handy, that.
Kai Lord said:
Handy, that.
Jack Haggerty
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To follow up...
Now suppose my Wizard has the Spell Focus (Illusion) feat. He casts a Shadow Evocation (Fireball). Does the extra +2 apply only to the initial Will Save? Or both the Will Save and the resultant Reflex Save?
Now suppose my Wizard has the Spell Focus (Illusion) feat. He casts a Shadow Evocation (Fireball). Does the extra +2 apply only to the initial Will Save? Or both the Will Save and the resultant Reflex Save?
Jack Haggerty said:
Given that spell DC seems to be a combination of how powerful the spell is (spell level) and how well you cast it (Intelligence bonus), I would say it applies to both saves. You are still casting an illusion spell, regardless of what the target thinks.
The +2 bonus to the will save reflects your skill at crafting believable illusions. The +2 bonus to the reflex save is slightly more difficult to explain, but if Spell Focus (Evocation) reflects your ability to place your fireball spell in such a way as to make it more difficult to avoid... well that must be what's happening here too. You are better at placing your illusions so that targets are caught squarely in the area of effect.
Eccles
Ragged idiot in a trilby.
How do the saves work on these things, anyway?
Does the target get a Will save on the Evocation because he's been hit with the Fireball (ie. he's 'interacting' with it), or does he only get a Will save if he states his intention to disbelieve it?
The Conjuration is simpler, because you the point of interaction is a lot clearer, i.e. you're fighting with it and you see through it, at which point it gets a lot less dangerous.
Does the target get a Will save on the Evocation because he's been hit with the Fireball (ie. he's 'interacting' with it), or does he only get a Will save if he states his intention to disbelieve it?
The Conjuration is simpler, because you the point of interaction is a lot clearer, i.e. you're fighting with it and you see through it, at which point it gets a lot less dangerous.
Jack Haggerty
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Eccles said:
You got it spot on. The Will save for both is "Will disbelief (if interacted with)". With a conjured creature, that means you attck it, or it attacks you. For attack spells... such as Melf's Acid Arrow and Flame Arrow for Conj, or Lightning Bolt or Fireball for Evok ...Interaction is the possibility of taking damage from the spell.
