Replacing Eladrin Fey Step?

[Drkfathr1]

Say you wanted to keep most of the flavor of the Eladrin race, but wanted to remove the teleporting ability. What kind of ability/power do you think would work well with the race's concept as a replacement?

 

[erf_beto]

Some suggestions I've seen:

* instead of teleport, shift 5 squares, ignore difficult terrain during this move
* cast one cantrip per encounter (might not work for eladrin wizards)
* reroll History or Arcana skill check (or maybe a lot more skills - as an ancient race eladrins could be the masters of knowledge)
* weapon finesse with longswords and spears (use Dex instead of Str)
* an Awe/Beauty/Inspiring/Intimidating group aura or power based on nobility hubris and/or comeliness (reroll or give bonus to social skill where your mere presence is disconcerting and or driving the attention of everyone else)

 

[Minigiant]

Magic missile at-will and proficiency with wands.

 

[jsepeta]

teleport

why no teleporting? is it somehow being abused?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

why no teleporting? is it somehow being abused?

Not everyone likes teleportation at low levels. Even if it's just for ordinary movement.

My idea would be to grant the Eladrin a Wizard At-Will as an Encounter power, but this will be less useful for wizards (maybe instead grant him an extra at-will - as at-will), and it quickly becomes obsolete for a non-Wizard.

A 5 square shift that ignores difficult terrain basically recreates the entire effect, minus a few corner cases (monsters with Combat Challenge like abilities, and challenging or blocking terrain can be problematic.)

 

[Drkfathr1]

why no teleporting? is it somehow being abused?

It's not the movement so much, just the fluff around it all. No precedent in my campaigns for teleporting Elves, so I was wanting some ideas on what to replace it with if I ditch it. I'm not going to re-design my campaign world just to shoe horn something like that in.

Shifting isn't a bad idea if you account for their grace. I also like the idea of the social aura and the re-rolling of arcana and history checks.

I had thought of cantrips or a wizard at-will as an encounter power, but that wouldn't work well if the character was already a wizard.

 

[JoeNotCharles]

I have a similar issue, I want to have some "hidden" Eladrin mixed in with regular Elves (it's a major theme of my campaign), but I need to think of a subtler ability they can use.

 

[Minigiant]

My idea would be to grant the Eladrin a Wizard At-Will as an Encounter power, but this will be less useful for wizards (maybe instead grant him an extra at-will - as at-will), and it quickly becomes obsolete for a non-Wizard.

That's why I say chose the wizard at will and grant wand proficiency to use the power with. They already get longswords.

Go the whole "All eladrin learn a little magic" route. It's balanced with humans and half elves because it forces which class and power you get.

Human- Current class' at-will.
Half elf- Any other class at-will as encounter
Eladrin- Specific at-will of specific class

Non-wizards get another ranged attack, Wizards get a bonus at will. Everybody wins!

 

[Drkfathr1]

That's a good point, even if they were a Wizard they'd just end up with an extra at-will, which would still be a nice bonus, not useless overlap.

I'd probably be happy with that without adding the Wand mastery.

Nice ideas guys, this gets me thinking!

 

[Plane Sailing]

What I've been using since 4e launched is:

Eladrin get a wizard cantrip of their choice as an encounter power.

Eladrin Wizards (on the other hand) get a third at-will power.


So far there out of about 15 PCs there have been about 4 Eladrin, and only the most recent one a wizard. Other wizards have been tieflings and human to date.

Cheers