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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8432488" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>I specifically stated in the preceding text that they are shared across Magic and D&D. Paizo’s issues were a failure of senior leadership and management. Magic and D&D [Edited] is one company, why do you think cleanliness of offices, lack of policy for dealing with policy and harassment would be different between the same company?</p><p></p><p>A lot of what has been leveled at WOC is based on a Twitter conjecture. “WOC must be racist because they didn’t hire me” and other similar claims. I’m not going to get into every point because we’ve been there already and I’m not saying that there might not be racist people working within WOC. I’m just saying that disputing the decisions about what a banned player could or couldn’t participate in Is <strong>not</strong> on the same as telling an employee who suffered harassment at work, that it was your own fault and that the customers are there to have a good time.</p><p></p><p>Feeling that your manager didn’t give you credit for an idea you felt you had created is <strong>not</strong> the same as having a less favorable contract for people of different genders.</p><p></p><p>Im not saying WOC is perfect. Let’s be honest though, I doubt the writers would go easy on WOC if they had evidence. They properly go to town on Paizo, but the worst they say about WOC is that Orion <em>felt</em> like a token hire and didn’t <em>feel</em> he was given enough work to do. It’s just not on the same level as the very specific accusations leveled at Paizo.</p><p></p><p>Forgive me, if the weight of your condemnation of WOC boils down to ‘there’s probably really nasty stuff happening at WOC but people are too scared to tell us about it.” That doesn’t really cut the mustard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8432488, member: 6879661"] I specifically stated in the preceding text that they are shared across Magic and D&D. Paizo’s issues were a failure of senior leadership and management. Magic and D&D [Edited] is one company, why do you think cleanliness of offices, lack of policy for dealing with policy and harassment would be different between the same company? A lot of what has been leveled at WOC is based on a Twitter conjecture. “WOC must be racist because they didn’t hire me” and other similar claims. I’m not going to get into every point because we’ve been there already and I’m not saying that there might not be racist people working within WOC. I’m just saying that disputing the decisions about what a banned player could or couldn’t participate in Is [B]not[/B] on the same as telling an employee who suffered harassment at work, that it was your own fault and that the customers are there to have a good time. Feeling that your manager didn’t give you credit for an idea you felt you had created is [B]not[/B] the same as having a less favorable contract for people of different genders. Im not saying WOC is perfect. Let’s be honest though, I doubt the writers would go easy on WOC if they had evidence. They properly go to town on Paizo, but the worst they say about WOC is that Orion [I]felt[/I] like a token hire and didn’t [I]feel[/I] he was given enough work to do. It’s just not on the same level as the very specific accusations leveled at Paizo. Forgive me, if the weight of your condemnation of WOC boils down to ‘there’s probably really nasty stuff happening at WOC but people are too scared to tell us about it.” That doesn’t really cut the mustard. [/QUOTE]
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