I imagine that's part of the trade off for maneuvers and Extra Attack.Hey, so I just picked it up and one of my players is interested in the Wielder but wants to know... why no cantrips?
i mean, counterpoint...herald gets maneuvers, extra attack, half-casting, and cantrips. so if it is a trade off, it's probably for something else.I imagine that's part of the trade off for maneuvers and Extra Attack.
The thing wielders get that herald’s don’t is the ability to convert exertion into spells (heralds can only convert spells into exertion). Although nothing stops anyone from designing an archetype that gets a cantrip or two.i mean, counterpoint...herald gets maneuvers, extra attack, half-casting, and cantrips. so if it is a trade off, it's probably for something else.
And also a native extension pool, instead of the herald's spells vs. maneuvers trade-off.The thing wielders get that herald’s don’t is the ability to convert exertion into spells (heralds can only convert spells into exertion). Although nothing stops anyone from designing an archetype that gets a cantrip or two.
Indeed! The Burdened from thematic Toolkit: Carry the Darkness is just such an archetype. The Accursed Magic feature gives you two affliction cantrips.The thing wielders get that herald’s don’t is the ability to convert exertion into spells (heralds can only convert spells into exertion). Although nothing stops anyone from designing an archetype that gets a cantrip or two.
I mean, it depends on the cantrip. Damage-dealing cantrips, yeah. Something like prestidigitation or dancing lights, probably notWielder strikes me as a martial class (hence the maneuvers) who get a bit of magic from their "pseudo patron" the magic item. If they could cast cantrips they might get the idea that they don't really need the item.
Very good point. My friend was concerned that at low levels they're very weak, but I've messaged them this. Their other option was to go fighter but to use the Arcane Showoff archetype--their character idea was someone who was raised in a noble family who taught both wizardry and martial prowess, so they definitely wanted the gishiest they could find.The thing wielders get that herald’s don’t is the ability to convert exertion into spells (heralds can only convert spells into exertion). Although nothing stops anyone from designing an archetype that gets a cantrip or two.
I don't own that one. Yet. It's not quite what they're looking for, though.Indeed! The Burdened from thematic Toolkit: Carry the Darkness is just such an archetype. The Accursed Magic feature gives you two affliction cantrips.