Mage armor Q and Invis to undead Q

[Saxit]

Does mage armor protect against touch attacks?

Does the normal invisibility spell make you invisible to undead, or do you need to use the lvl 1 cleric spell for that?

/Saxit

 

[Xarlen]

Does mage armor protect against touch attacks?

Yes; magical bonuses of Armor protect against incorperal touch attacks, as does Mage Armor.

Does the normal invisibility spell make you invisible to undead, or do you need to use the lvl 1 cleric spell for that?

Normal invisibility works.

 

[Beowulf]

I thought Mage Armor only counted for Incorporeal attacks (which are touch attacks) and not against touch attacks from spells and such?

 

[Xarlen]

Actually I think I'm wrong. No, I don't believe that regular touch attacks are rebuffed by mage armor.

 

[Gromm]

Actually I think I'm wrong. No, I don't believe that regular touch attacks are rebuffed by mage armor.

Regular touch attacks are not effected by mage armor, incorporeal attacks, are (because its a force effect).

So vs a Harm spell - no AC, vs a spectre touch +4 AC.

And Invisiblity to Undead is actually quite different from Invisibility if you read it (unintellegent undead have no chance of detecting you, multiple targets, etc). Seems a bit confusing, but if you read it it makes more sense. Maybe they should have called it Undead Cloaking or Concealment from Undead or something, you're not the first to be confused.

 

[hong]

Hm. Suppose a spectre tried to cast a harm spell on someone with mage armour?

 

[hong]

Woot, first double post on the new server. Yay!

 

[Saxit]

Anyone have a more official ruling on this? With references preferably
/Saxit

 

[Henrix]

The official ruling is like they say above:

Mage Armor gives an armor bonus, which never helps against ordinary touch attacks. Read up on touch attacks in the PHB.

But it is a force effect, and thus works against incorporeal touch attacks, which are different from ordinary touch attacks. See the section on Incorporeal in the DMG, I think Mage Armor is mentioned specifically.

 

[Xarlen]

The spell description says that it's effective against incorperal touch attacks.