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<blockquote data-quote="IcyCool" data-source="post: 2420883" data-attributes="member: 20308"><p>Luthien, as Lord Pendragon mentioned, Familiars do not gain levels according to the rules.</p><p></p><p>However, this has come up before, and I'll give you the same suggestions I gave to those folks.</p><p></p><p>1. If you allow a familiar to also be a cohort, take a look in the DMG for the rules governing a Paladin having his mount also be his cohort. I believe the ECL (for purposes of determining its cohort level for the leadership feat) for the mount increases by +2 because of the Paladin mount boosts. I'd do the same for a Familiar. So, let's say you took the Improved Familiar feat and got yourself a Pseudodragon familiar. If you were to make it a cohort, you first factor up its ECL. A pseudodragon's ECL is (2HD + 3 LA) = 5. So a plain ordinary Pseudodragon is a suitable cohort for a 7th level character. If it were also a familiar, its ECL would be (5 + 2 for familiar abilities) = 7, and so would be a suitable cohort for a 9th level master. After that, the pseudragon can gain class levels, which add to ECL normally. (i.e. The master advances to 10th level, and the pseudodragon familiar (ECL 7) advances 1 level in a class.</p><p></p><p>2. If you allow a familiar to advance in class levels as a cohort, be sure to include wording that allows the familiar to use its own hit points instead of half its master's.</p><p></p><p>Good luck and happy gaming!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IcyCool, post: 2420883, member: 20308"] Luthien, as Lord Pendragon mentioned, Familiars do not gain levels according to the rules. However, this has come up before, and I'll give you the same suggestions I gave to those folks. 1. If you allow a familiar to also be a cohort, take a look in the DMG for the rules governing a Paladin having his mount also be his cohort. I believe the ECL (for purposes of determining its cohort level for the leadership feat) for the mount increases by +2 because of the Paladin mount boosts. I'd do the same for a Familiar. So, let's say you took the Improved Familiar feat and got yourself a Pseudodragon familiar. If you were to make it a cohort, you first factor up its ECL. A pseudodragon's ECL is (2HD + 3 LA) = 5. So a plain ordinary Pseudodragon is a suitable cohort for a 7th level character. If it were also a familiar, its ECL would be (5 + 2 for familiar abilities) = 7, and so would be a suitable cohort for a 9th level master. After that, the pseudragon can gain class levels, which add to ECL normally. (i.e. The master advances to 10th level, and the pseudodragon familiar (ECL 7) advances 1 level in a class. 2. If you allow a familiar to advance in class levels as a cohort, be sure to include wording that allows the familiar to use its own hit points instead of half its master's. Good luck and happy gaming! [/QUOTE]
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