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AI is stealing writers’ words and jobs…

Ryujin

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Many more people than artists are struggling. And this isn't about people dreaming about becoming artists. This is about people expressing entitlement to a job security not many others are afforded.

Remember, this thread is titled "AI is stealing writers’ words and jobs..."

If all it discussed was legal matters, that'd be fine. (It still isn't "theft" but I digress).

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how it pretty heavily encourages you to feel resentment that automation comes for this particular job sector for once.

And that's too rich for me. So here I am to provide a bit of perspective:

  • the fact we now can make images using nothing but words is a huge step forward for humanity; arguably far greater than automatic lighting of gas lamps or whatever. Someone compared the dawn of generative AI to the printing press... and all you want to bitch about is how some jobs are lost?
  • whenever low education low income people are made redundant that's not a problem worth discussing but now somehow it is...? Don't you see how bad that makes y'all look?
No, I want to "bitch" about how something greater than jobs is lost and state that people who create art are not automatically somehow wealthy, or are even economically stable.
 

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Sacrosanct

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No one is economically stable. Why single out artists in particular?
Because that's the topic of this thread???

I'll never understand this argument of "unless you complain about all these other off topic issues in this discussion too, that means you don't care about those other issues."

That's a poor argument. Most people voicing concern about AI taking jobs from artists also have complained about other people having their jobs replaced. It wasn't brought up in this thread because it's not the topic of this thread.
 

Because that's the topic of this thread???

I'll never understand this argument of "unless you complain about all these other off topic issues in this discussion too, that means you don't care about those other issues."

That's a poor argument. Most people voicing concern about AI taking jobs from artists also have complained about other people having their jobs replaced. It wasn't brought up in this thread because it's not the topic of this thread.
It certainly looks to me like certain types of profession, in this case writers and artists, feel entitled to job protection, but kept very quiet when other professions - weavers, farmers, factory workers, miners, office staff etc were threatened by technological change.

So yes, if you make an issue about writers and artists, and forget about everyone else, don't be surprised if people don't feel inclined to man your barricades.
 

Ryujin

Legend
It certainly looks to me like certain types of profession, in this case writers and artists, feel entitled to job protection, but kept very quiet when other professions - weavers, farmers, factory workers, miners, office staff etc were threatened by technological change.

So yes, if you make an issue about writers and artists, and forget about everyone else, don't be surprised if people don't feel inclined to man your barricades.
I really don't understand where this idea of being silent while others lose their jobs comes from.
 

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Sacrosanct

Legend
It certainly looks to me like certain types of profession, in this case writers and artists, feel entitled to job protection, but kept very quiet when other professions - weavers, farmers, factory workers, miners, office staff etc were threatened by technological change.
This statement tells me that I think you're missing the point. weavers, farmers, etc? Even ignoring the very important contextual difference that one is happening now and the others happened 100 years ago---they didn't lose their jobs to a process that steals their labor in order for the new process to even work. Not only are artists losing their jobs, they are losing it to something that takes their work without permission or compensation. That's the point. Some of the comments in this thread make me wonder if some folks even know how AI art and writing works. It literally cannot exist without taking millions of images. Art isn't created just from words. Without the art it used, AI art can't produce anything.
 

Remember, this thread is titled "AI is stealing writers’ words and jobs..."
You know if we changed the title of the thread to "Jobs are being outsourced to AI" it wouldn't generate the same outrage and it reminds me of the politically charged statement of "Illegal immigrants are stealing jobs."

"Employers looking to cut cost start using AI"
"In a move to reduce spending, companies turn to AI"
"Contract negotiations should now include a clause regarding AI, here's why."
 

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