The terminology is disparaging. The analysis, depends on how the authors word it. I've seen some authors be disparaging with their analysis, and some authors not. Terms like "Princess Play" and "Play to find Out What's in the DM's Notes," etc. are disparaging terms and the analysis can be...
What are you going on about quantum for? Nothing in that statement simultaneously is one thing and another until something happens to fix it. If you're going to try and mock me, at least get it right.
What's even more sad is that you got two people to laugh at that claptrap.
The point is, there shouldn't be offense given at all. People have been using this disparaging terminology for years and they continue to do so because biased authors wrote articles demeaning other playstyles that they didn't like by coming up with these derogatory terms. Like somehow the fact...
In my opinion it's because a lot of folks here use the same negatively charged terminology that the original authors used. Whether they have the same sense of superiority and look down on traditional play, I'd don't know for sure. I have suspicions about a few.
If they acknowledge that the...
No. A LARP is very different from Cops and Robbers that elementary school kids play.
RPGs are not inherently childish. Games with rules are not inherently childish.
Cops and Robbers is just a bunch of kids running around saying, "I got you!" "No you didn't!" "Yes I did! I pointed in your...
I agree with this.
He has a childlike sense of wonder.
He has a childish sense of wonder.
Only one of those sounds negative.
"Childish" is generally used to mean immaturity, rather than the better things from childhood.
"Childlike" is generally used to mean an adult having good qualities...
Which is fair. I'm not at all ashamed of my playstyle or playing D&D. However, that does not mean that it's okay to disparage what I do or that I shouldn't push back at such disparagement.
Yeah. I've seen disparagement from the traditional players as well. I can say that I have seen much more from the narrative folks, though. Also, it happening on both sides doesn't really excuse the terminology being used in that article.
It should stop from all directions, not be tolerated...
No. It really depends on what you are doing. Pretend cops and robbers, sure. That's childish. RPGs? No. That's not inherently childish. Pretend roleplaying at work to learn a process? Also not childish.
When you are calling something that is not childish, childish, that's disparaging...
I don't see it as more mature to accept disparaging comments just because people refuse to stop using them. You've apparently become acclimated to it, but I'm not going to just accept them. It's on the people who use those terms to learn to stop using them and use more neutral terminology instead.
"the term “childish play” is not intended to be disparaging. I do not think that playing in a childish manner is a shameful activity. If you do, you might need help, because you’re criticizing children being childish. The name comes, of course, from the common role-adoption game that children...
Not RPGing, traditional and simulationist play. Other styles don't get the same treatment. Traditional play is "playing to find out what's in the DM's notes" or "Princess play," but narrative play isn't "Being overly concerned about character" or "children's story hour."
You can tell from the...
The original people who coined those terms were also using them in a derogatory manner. I guess it's okay to use derogatory terms if you aren't the ones who made them up. That's not something that I've ever heard is okay, but since so many people here are arguing just that, it must be true...