this is it... especially with creators saying it's meant for common reading and then ALSO saying you can make multi deals with multi creatures (aka multi pacts)
I am a bit frustrated that I’ve seen no one clarify this already.
The video talks about your pact boon coming from a different being than your subclass, and other class features potentially representing other little “pacts” as well.
That…doesn’t imply that you can have multiple pact boon class features, any more than it implies that you can have two subclasses. It only means that you can define the sources of your various class features however you want.
Also, natural language doesn’t mean common reading. It means that when you have trouble parsing the rules, you apply the rules of standard American English grammar as a first step to figuring out what the RAW says.
that is what I am being called a liar and/or dumb for saying... and that is what threw the OP off.
I don't know if I want them to be or not, I just wish they made it easier to skim the spell list and understand what spells are and are not take able by each class. especially since current (and back compatible) xxx CANTRIP means that class can chose it.
I think what some folks are running into here is that from a perspective different from yours, it really is crystal clear and as obvious as how to calculate your attack bonus or any other basic rule. The feature says you can learn arcane cantrips. Anything that isn’t an arcane cantrip doesn’t fit the requirement. The end.
But, because it is logical to think that a warlock cantrip is available to warlocks, a lot of people aren’t having an easy time accepting “that doesn’t matter you do what the rules text says” as an answer.
And that’s very fair. It should make sense, one way or another.
Since you two have been the ones to read this the most I have to throw another curve ball here.
I told the DM what you guys said and he agreed so I made a book lock without taking those… but my buddy read and she sent to our group that the book of shadow says you can add any cantrip and 1st level spells from the three lists. Can you use book of shadow to pick up the other two?
This made my DM say he went cross eyed and to just come here (not that he is kind in his description of this place) and find out what it is and see if we could get an answer.
This one is easy. It says you can choose a cantrip from the three main spell lists, those being arcane, primal, and divine. The pact boon cantrips aren’t on those lists.
The fact that the term from the 2014 book are changing so warlock cantrips are not cantrips warlocks can take is making the DM mad. He even now regrets saying he would run this becuse of issue like this.
Oof. That sucks.
I do think that they need to change the presentation so that a thing that makes logical sense isn’t against the rules when that needn’t be the case.
