Draconians Ral Partha miniatures - need help

[Collective_Restraint]

Hey everyone,

I just got a hold of the original Dragonians miniatures from Ral Partha and I really want to paint them as faithfully as possible to the source material and I'd really need help to get a confirmation of which ones are what type. I mean, I know which one is the Aurak and I think the 2 biggest ones are Sivaks but I'm not 100% sure about the remaining ones. Anyone can help me out ? Thanks !

 

[Andvari]

The 2nd 3rd and 6th miniatures (based on the box art) appear inspired from this image:

So probably a Sivak and an Aurak at least. I'm guessing the 3rd one is a Baaz, and that the 4th and 5th as well, as they have a similar appearance. It also makes sense there would be more of those as the Baaz are supposedly the most common.

What's the 8th guy holding? A wand? Could be a Bozak. And is the 9th one be casting a spell with the free hand? Another Bozak?

Looking through more Dragonlance art might provide additional clues. There's another one in the back of the image, too. The 8th mini's inspiration maybe?

 

[ilgatto]

This is how the original draconians were depicted in official 1E Dragonlance source book back in 1987.

 

[Andvari]

Perhaps that makes no. 8 a kapak as it seems to have a "beard", while having a single free hand (for spell casting?) could indicate bozak?

 

[ilgatto]

Maybe there's some logic to the way they are lined up on the back of the box? Descending Hit Dice?
The first seems to be a Sivak because its holding the hedge-cutter sword the one in the DLA pics has.

 

[ilgatto]

So the box is from 1989 and 1E Dragonlance Adventures (1987) has:

Aurak 8 HD, no wings, SZ M (7' tall); robes; gold dragons

and then (in order of HD and size):

Sivak 6 HD, wings, and SZ L (9 ft tall); hedge-cutter sword; silver dragons?

Bozak 4 HD, wings, and SZ M (6+ ft tall); spell casters

Kapak 3 HD, wings, and SZ M (6 ft tall)

Baaz 2 HD, wings, SZ M (5½ ft tall); smallest, conceal wings under robes


Meaning, if there's a logic to the way here are lined up on the back of the box:

#1: Sivak

#2: Bozak?

#3-5: Kapaks?

#6: Aurak

#7+: Baaz?

?

 

[Collective_Restraint]

I don't understand how they never released an official list of which one is which

 

[Mannahnin]

Ok, looking closely at the back cover depictions, color schemes and scaling, and comparing them to the old Monster Manual descriptions, particularly height and scale coloration, I feel pretty confident in this. From left to right:

Sivak, Sivak (same height and coloration of the first guy), Kapak, Kapak, Kapak, Aurak (robed), Bozak (bronze scales, taller than the ones to his right), Baaz, Baaz, Baaz.

 

[ilgatto]

OK, so it would seem that the 'logic to the line-up' theory doesn't work, for looking at the picture if the figs you sent, I'd say that #5 in the first row may well be a bozak (face, armor, sword compared to the one in the pic of the 1E draconians).

Anyhow. Gotta dash.

Maybe a sift through the Ral Partha 1989 catalogue can get you anywhere?

https://www.dndlead.com/Catalogs/RalPartha1989.pdf

Whoa! Just got brutally ninja'd by @Mannahnin Bozak-wise!

 

[Mannahnin]

Whoa! Just got brutally ninja'd by @Mannahnin Bozak-wise!

Hard to call it ninja'ing when I'm 90% agreeing with what you posted a couple of hours ago.