D&D (2024) What does the new DMG say about gods?

[Voadam]

The 2014 version had gods who can grant spells and quasi deities who cannot. It also had alternate cosmologies.

Any changes in 2024?

 

[pukunui]

The 2014 version had gods who can grant spells and quasi deities who cannot. It also had alternate cosmologies.

Any changes in 2024?

The 2024 DMG has a section in the DM's Toolbox chapter entitled "Gods and Other Powers". It has the following sub-sections: Divine Rank, Home Plane and Alignment, Gods and Divine Magic, Divine Knowledge, Divine Intervention, and Creating Religions. There's also a sidebar called "Build Your Own Pantheon".

While this section covers much of the same ground as what was in 2014, it does so in broader strokes and with fewer words.

The sample pantheon included in the book is the Greyhawk pantheon in the Greyhawk gazetteer chapter. The Dawn War pantheon is gone, although some of the gods from that pantheon are mentioned individually in the Lore Glossary.

The glossary includes the following gods (and god-like beings): Bahamut, Corellon, Diancastra, Euryale, Gruumsh, Hadar, Kyuss, Iuz, Moradin, the Raven Queen, Tiamat, and Vecna. EDIT: and Tharizdun!

 

[Maxperson]

The 2024 DMG has a section in the DM's Toolbox chapter entitled "Gods and Other Powers". It has the following sub-sections: Divine Rank, Home Plane and Alignment, Gods and Divine Magic, Divine Knowledge, Divine Intervention, and Creating Religions. There's also a sidebar called "Build Your Own Pantheon".

While this section covers much of the same ground as what was in 2014, it does so in broader strokes and with fewer words.

The sample pantheon included in the book is the Greyhawk pantheon in the Greyhawk gazetteer chapter. The Dawn War pantheon is gone, although some of the gods from that pantheon are mentioned individually in the Lore Glossary.

The glossary includes the following gods (and god-like beings): Bahamut, Corellon, Diancastra, Euryale, Gruumsh, Hadar, Kyuss, Iuz, Moradin, the Raven Queen, Tiamat, and Vecna.

Iuz and Vecna aren't in the Greyhawk gazetteer chapter?

 

[pukunui]

Iuz and Vecna aren't in the Greyhawk gazetteer chapter?

They're both on the Gods of Greyhawk pantheon list. Iuz the Evil is also one of the three sample campaign arcs presented under "Greyhawk conflicts". For Vecna, the book just tells you to see his entry in the Lore Glossary for more.

Oh, and Tharizdun is in the Lore Glossary as well.

 

[Scribe]

Gruumsh

Considering he's name dropped in the PHB, is he detailed at all here?

 

[pukunui]

Considering he's name dropped in the PHB, is he detailed at all here?

Just this: "Gruumsh (GROOMSH) is a warring god who is often described as the creator or patron of the orc people. Some orcs attribute their tenacity and toughness to Gruumsh’s lingering influence. Some myths describe a primeval conflict between Gruumsh and Corellon, which resulted in Gruumsh losing one eye and Corellon’s spilled blood becoming the first elves."

Many of the Lore Glossary entries are that short (if not shorter). Only a few are longer.

 

[Scribe]

"Gruumsh (GROOMSH) is a warring god who is often described as the creator or patron of the orc people. Some orcs attribute their tenacity and toughness to Gruumsh’s lingering influence. Some myths describe a primeval conflict between Gruumsh and Corellon, which resulted in Gruumsh losing one eye and Corellon’s spilled blood becoming the first elves."

 

[pukunui]

There are entries for both Iggwilv and Tasha. The one for Tasha is literally just "See Iggwilv."

 

[jasper]

I did a spit take on page 75.
....For game purposes, wielding divine power isn’t dependent on the gods’ ongoing approval or the strength of a character’s devotion. The power is a gift offered to a select few; once given, it can’t be rescinded.....
So WOTC just told all DMs player character can say fu to the god and still get their full spell list the next day.

 

[Parmandur]

I did a spit take on page 75.
....For game purposes, wielding divine power isn’t dependent on the gods’ ongoing approval or the strength of a character’s devotion. The power is a gift offered to a select few; once given, it can’t be rescinded.....
So WOTC just told all DMs player character can say fu to the god and still get their full spell list the next day.

WotC gave DMs a narrative path to not get mired down in policing one character types abilities.