Weapon Size of a Dragon Claw

[Saladrex]

What is the weapon size of a Colossal Dragon's claw? Colossal or Gargantuan? And for this dragon's "mouth"?

Thanks.

 

[Crothian]

Well, a human is medium sized, and our fists are tiny, two size catagories smaller. So, I'd say a Dragon's Claws are also two size catagories smaller or in this case Huge. I'd say thr same for the mouth.

 

[CCamfield]

Err... our fists are tiny, but our fingers aren't as big as our hands. Maybe 3 levels smaller?

 

[Crothian]

Err... our fists are tiny, but our fingers aren't as big as our hands. Maybe 3 levels smaller?

I wasn't thinking of it as Claw, I was thinking it as claw attack. So, I guess it dep[ends which he was asking for. Good point though.

 

[Saladrex]

Well, I was thinking of the whole weapon. In this case the arm. The damaging part are the fingers, but the whole weapon is the arm. (just similar to a halberd)

In the PHB page 131 it seems that the dragon arm is 1 size lower than his size, the same for the neck/mouth. But is there anything ruled on this? Or we should rely on comparing sizes?

Thanks again.

 

[AuraSeer]

Unarmed strikes are considered two sizes smaller than the creature using them. I'd use the same rule for natural weapons, in the absence of text that says otherwise.

 

[Saladrex]

Hmm,

Looking at the MM, The damage for a Huge Falchion is 2d6. The same damage for the claw of a huge dragon.
So based on this I'm considering that the natural weapon of a beast has the same size category of it.
This makes the same size category of a weapon to be smaller than its equivalent for creatures, which makes sense, since a medium mace is smaller than a normal human.
Unarmed strikes are not the same as natural weapons, so I think this rule is OK for me. What do you all think?