The Slam Attack?

[Hrothgar Rannúlfr]

Just curious... Is the slam attack a touch attack against the target's Touch Armor Class?

I've wondered for a long time, but haven't remembered to ask and haven't found anyting that answers this in the core books, yet.

Thanks.

 

[Arkhandus]

Nope. It's just a generic term for bludgeoning an opponent with fists, arms, body slams, or otherwise, as a natural weapon (as opposed to an unarmed strike; yes, it's wierd that way, since unarmed strikes are essentially the same thing). It's a normal melee attack.

 

[Hrothgar Rannúlfr]

OK. Good.

I've been running it as a normal melee attack. But, I got to thinking about it and how much more dangerous it might be if it were a touch attack with some of the special powers that some attacking creatures have.

Thanks!

 

[frankthedm]

I've been running it as a normal melee attack. But, I got to thinking about it and how much more dangerous it might be if it were a touch attack with some of the special powers that some attacking creatures have.

The vampire has to bet your normal AC to bitch slap the levels out of you.

 

[Hrothgar Rannúlfr]

Indeed. There's one (or two) in the dungeon that the group's currently in. They've already met him once, but I wanted to be sure that he needed to hit their normal armor class instead of their touch armor class to level drain.

 

[Random Axe]

What I hate about Vamps is that if they transmorph into the Vampbat or Vampwolf forms, they lose the special energy drain when they attack with their "new" natural attacks of the new form.

 

[shilsen]

What I hate about Vamps is that if they transmorph into the Vampbat or Vampwolf forms, they lose the special energy drain when they attack with their "new" natural attacks of the new form.

They don't lose it. They lose their slam attack and dominate ability, but since they retain their other Su abilities (which you do when you use Alternate Form; see MM pg. 305) and Energy Drain specifically mentions that it works through the slam or "any other natural weapon the vampire may possess", it would work just fine in bat or wolf form.

 

[Infiniti2000]

The vampire has to bet your normal AC to bitch slap the levels out of you.

Does he have to call out, "All in!" ?