Tensir's Floating disk of do everything + Cranky DM

[Rowe]

Is there a comprehensive list of what Tensir's floating disc can and cannot do

I say
* It floats on water
* Players can ride on it
* 1 player standing up
* 2 players counted as a grapple
* 2 players can sit on it back to back
* I can control the height of the floating disc? lets say to scoop something out of a shallow water.
* Hovers over the ground in a manner which does not trigger any motion, or pressure sensitive material below the belly of the disc.
* if height can be controlled i could use it as a snow sled?
* It can scale any surface but a vertical sher face.
* can use multiple Tensir disks to carry extremely heavy objects. I.E. snap the wheels off a carriage. use 2 disks to float the carriage back to town.
* when siting / standing on the disk normal movements like shifting, expeditious retreat, the disk moves under you at those speeds


Any objections? Some one shed some light on what your campaign allows to be done with things like this?

 

[unan oranis]

Is there a comprehensive list of what Tensir's floating disc can and cannot do

I say
* It floats on water

Me too, though the ritual specifically states that the disc will drop if the ground gives way below it, so theres lots of room to rule it sinks.

* Players can ride on it
* 1 player standing up
* 2 players counted as a grapple
* 2 players can sit on it back to back

It seems logical and more or less universally accepted that a person could stand on the disc.
According to its description, it really sounds like you could pile a lot of people on. At least four, though more than one would deffinatly cause combat disadvantages.

* I can control the height of the floating disc? lets say to scoop something out of a shallow water.
* Hovers over the ground in a manner which does not trigger any motion, or pressure sensitive material below the belly of the disc.
* if height can be controlled i could use it as a snow sled?
* It can scale any surface but a vertical sher face.

Hard ones, for sure. If it doesn't push down on the surface below it at all, water and snow should be passable.

On the other hand if the disc can fall, it should be able to slide as a sled.

You'd have to call it for maximum incline, but anything you could do with up to a 10 in climb seems reasonable in my opinion.

* can use multiple Tensir disks to carry extremely heavy objects. I.E. snap the wheels off a carriage. use 2 disks to float the carriage back to town.

I'm not sure if there is a specific rule about maximum number of rituals, but there is a precedent for maximum number of prestidigitations going at once (3).

I personally would say one wizard, one disc.

* when siting / standing on the disk normal movements like shifting, expeditious retreat, the disk moves under you at those speeds

Any objections? Some one shed some light on what your campaign allows to be done with things like this?

Well the basics of the issue are this:

MESSING AROUND WITH TENSURES FLOATING DISC

Cons: Bodies of water as an engaging obstacle eliminated; potentially horse drawn or greater speeds if creativly used - again eliminating some engaging obstacles; "cheap" or "boring" pass through certain traps.

Pros: Creativity on part of player. feeling of "beating the system" or "magic", fun and exciting.


I think if you see these coming, and just amend tensures floating disc to be capable of some of the tricks at higher level (2-4), you'll end up with wizards who get to game the system harmlessly for a bit and then you'll be into paragon where it won't matter as much anyway.

Just my opinion - actually I take that back. "Say yes" is written in the dmg somewhere so I'm totally right.

 

[MarkB]

Is there a comprehensive list of what Tensir's floating disc can and cannot do

I say
* It floats on water

No. It floats above ground, and that's all.

* Players can ride on it
* 1 player standing up
* 2 players counted as a grapple
* 2 players can sit on it back to back

Sounds fine.

* I can control the height of the floating disc? lets say to scoop something out of a shallow water.

No. It floats a foot off the ground, averaged across the disc's area. If that means that one edge scrapes the ground, then the terrain is too steep for the disc and it will have trouble moving.

* Hovers over the ground in a manner which does not trigger any motion, or pressure sensitive material below the belly of the disc.

Yes.

* if height can be controlled i could use it as a snow sled?
* It can scale any surface but a vertical sher face.

No. See above.

* can use multiple Tensir disks to carry extremely heavy objects. I.E. snap the wheels off a carriage. use 2 disks to float the carriage back to town.

Not specified, but I'd rule that if you conjure a new disc, the existing one ceases. In any case, you could only direct one disc at a time, making synchronisation near-impossible.

* when siting / standing on the disk normal movements like shifting, expeditious retreat, the disk moves under you at those speeds

No. The only directed movement the disc can make is a normal move up to your speed. No shifts, no expeditious retreat. Standing on it is irrelevant to this.

Any objections? Some one shed some light on what your campaign allows to be done with things like this?

Only what it says on the tin.

 

[Stalker0]

I recently starting using my Tenser's as an oil bomb platform. I fill the concave disk with oil and ignite it with my scorching burst. Then I move the disk around combat and catch people on fire!

 

[mach1.9pants]

Is there a comprehensive list of what Tensir's floating disc can and cannot do

I say
* It floats on water

I would say yes,1 foot above

* Players can ride on it

Yep 3' space counts as squeezing

* 1 player standing up

yep

* 2 players counted as a grapple

sort of, I reckon 4 but not in combat, no grapple but balance checks for four, maybe

* 2 players can sit on it back to back

yep, no balance checks...3 or 4 would make checks

* I can control the height of the floating disc? lets say to scoop something out of a shallow water.

no way:" that floats a foot off the ground"; that is it 1 foot

* Hovers over the ground in a manner which does not trigger any motion, or pressure sensitive material below the belly of the disc.

yep it is not a hovercraft but a magic effect

* if height can be controlled i could use it as a snow sled?

nope 1 foot

* It can scale any surface but a vertical sher face.

yep but hard dc's to stay on it...same as climb dc

* can use multiple Tensir disks to carry extremely heavy objects. I.E. snap the wheels off a carriage. use 2 disks to float the carriage back to town.

yep as long as they are within 5 squares

* when siting / standing on the disk normal movements like shifting, expeditious retreat, the disk moves under you at those speeds

no way, it moves at your speed. PHB:"Your speed is your base walking speed, in contrast to your speed while swimming or, if you’re affected by a power, flying. etc". Shifting is a move action, not a move- as is Exp Retreat.

just IMHO, IMC as DM

 

[fissionessence]

I definitely don't think the disk should float on water; it stays 1 foot above the ground, and water is not ground. The disk would drop the the bottom of the body of water.

I recently starting using my Tenser's as an oil bomb platform.

One of my friends said that he played a 3.5 game where a guy had a bunch of laborers pile a whole bunch of rocks on his disk, then he moved it and let the momentum drop the rubble on an opponent. I forget all the details, though.

~

 

[Majushi]

Tenser's Floating Disc is only a 3 foot diameter.

Considering a PC takes up a 5 foot sq usually, and what? half that when "squeezing".

How do you envison sticking more than one person on a 3 foot diameter plate?

 

[Jack Colby]

I simply allow it to do whatever makes sense in a given situation given the bare minimum stats in the book description. So far all it's been used for is to cart back characters who fell in battle while the party retreats for an extended rest.

 

[Jack Colby]

Tenser's Floating Disc is only a 3 foot diameter.

Considering a PC takes up a 5 foot sq usually, and what? half that when "squeezing".

How do you envison sticking more than one person on a 3 foot diameter plate?

We did it, we envisioned them sitting back to back on the disc. Why would you hold PCs outside of an encounter to the 5 foot square?

 

[Daniel D. Fox]

The real question is whether I can use it for my level 24 shepherd as a hat to shield myself from the sun, or put a Magic Mouth on the inside of it to make it look like it's about to swallow me whole?!