Tell me about Terry`s Goodkind books.

This guy gets really mixed reviews on Amazon.com. Can you tell me if he is in the same league as Jordan, Hobb or Williams? I doubt there is an author as good as Martin in fantasy genre anyway.
 

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Melkor said:
This guy gets really mixed reviews on Amazon.com. Can you tell me if he is in the same league as Jordan, Hobb or Williams? I doubt there is an author as good as Martin in fantasy genre anyway.
No, he's not at all in the same league as even those guys. Not that they're really all that either.

Goodkind's prose is awkward and childish, his characters are wooden and cliched; poorly drawn and nonsensical in their motivations. His plots are silly, his descriptions are shoddy, and the books read like the stupid wet-dreams of sexually frustrated teenage boys.

There's a thread I started a few months ago where he was ripped a new one by the collective minds of ENWorld. I can't remember if anyone actually came to his defense or not.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
No, he's not at all in the same league as even those guys. Not that they're really all that either.

Goodkind's prose is awkward and childish, his characters are wooden and cliched; poorly drawn and nonsensical in their motivations. His plots are silly, his descriptions are shoddy, and the books read like the stupid wet-dreams of sexually frustrated teenage boys.

There's a thread I started a few months ago where he was ripped a new one by the collective minds of ENWorld. I can't remember if anyone actually came to his defense or not.

I've enjoyed his books, but will freely admit they are not all that great after the first one. I thought Wizard's First Rule was very good, but each one since has been fairly repetitive, predictable, and in too many ways over the top. But with all that I actually like the characters and enjoy reading the books. I just don't expect all that much from them.
 

I tried reading Wizards First Rule, it was really bad. I heard that the characters forget stuff that happened in eariler books.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
No, he's not at all in the same league as even those guys. Not that they're really all that either.

His plots are silly, his descriptions are shoddy, and the books read like the stupid wet-dreams of sexually frustrated teenage boys

There's a thread I started a few months ago where he was ripped a new one by the collective minds of ENWorld. I can't remember if anyone actually came to his defense or not.

Whats hilarious about this is that a lot of the same people who trash goodkind for the S&M in his first book praise George RR Martin for his books even though Martin's books are filled with fully described pedophilia, rape, incest, more rape, more pedophilia and even more rape.

I have no love for Goodkind (I thought his first book was good but the rest are positively awful), but the sexually frustrated teenage boy bit better applies to Martin then it does Goodkind. I know if I still was a sexually frustrated teenage boy I would choose Martin.
 

I enjoyed the first 3 books in his series. However, after that it got way too much for me. And really, I think his books after the first three aren't necessary. As was previously mentioned, he gets too repetitive and I don't enjoy over the top graphic sex stuff without a point.
 

I absolutely hated the series. I read until halfway thru book 4, and couldnt take it anymore. The only reason I had read that far was that I had nothing else to read at the time. A lot of the story seems to be heavily influenced by The Wheel of Time series (another series I couldnt get past the 4th book).

If you haven't already read Williams, Martin, or Erikson. There's also the Eternal Champion series by Moorcock. In fact, I'd probably recommend pretty much any other books than these.
 


One of the later books devolves into a thinly disguised criticism of Communism (Faith of the Fallen, IIRC). He's really got a thing for beating the crap out of his main characters, and not just once; torture and pain are very big themes of the series. S&M pretty much summarizes it, I think. One of the last ones I read (Pillars of Creation? the titles are all jumbled up in my mind) completely turned in a new direction with a whole new set of characters, very "meh" from what I remember (I don't think I finished it).
 


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