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<blockquote data-quote="Hex08" data-source="post: 8689516" data-attributes="member: 7029595"><p>This has long been close to my opinion of Discovery; an entertaining enough sci-fi show, lousy Trek. They tried to turn things around in the second season but even by the end of the third season, when I stopped watching, it hadn't become good Star Trek. Season one gives us a needless redesign of the Klingons that makes no sense in continuity (two penises?), a Sarek who acted completely out of character, tech not seen in any era of the show previously and a story that I remember little of other than Burnham starting a war (and did making her Spock's sister add anything to the show?). Plus, we got a hideous ship that was a rejected design from decades ago.</p><p></p><p>Michael Burnham is one of the shows biggest problems. She was front and center of almost every story regardless of her qualifications and it always seemed like the solution to every problem originated with her, with most of the rest of the cast usually being window dressing. There wasn't really an attempt to even give us crew members who could really be considered her equals or peers like a Kirk/Spock/McCoy or Picard/Riker/Data dynamic (maybe Saru and Georgiou?). She is quickly introduced as a mutineer and is constantly insubordinate but somehow becomes Captain without changing her behavior?? People talk about Kirk being a maverick but that really didn't become a thing until the movies and by that point I'm sure his reputation would forgive a lot but Burnham's much more unhinged behavior was there from the start and should have resulted in her being in the brig most of the time if not drummed out of the service all together.</p><p></p><p>Tilly was kind of fun but wasn't she promoted by Saru at one point even though she had shown no leadership qualities?</p><p></p><p>And don't get me started on The Burn and the collapse of the Federation being caused by a child screaming. So, so bad...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hex08, post: 8689516, member: 7029595"] This has long been close to my opinion of Discovery; an entertaining enough sci-fi show, lousy Trek. They tried to turn things around in the second season but even by the end of the third season, when I stopped watching, it hadn't become good Star Trek. Season one gives us a needless redesign of the Klingons that makes no sense in continuity (two penises?), a Sarek who acted completely out of character, tech not seen in any era of the show previously and a story that I remember little of other than Burnham starting a war (and did making her Spock's sister add anything to the show?). Plus, we got a hideous ship that was a rejected design from decades ago. Michael Burnham is one of the shows biggest problems. She was front and center of almost every story regardless of her qualifications and it always seemed like the solution to every problem originated with her, with most of the rest of the cast usually being window dressing. There wasn't really an attempt to even give us crew members who could really be considered her equals or peers like a Kirk/Spock/McCoy or Picard/Riker/Data dynamic (maybe Saru and Georgiou?). She is quickly introduced as a mutineer and is constantly insubordinate but somehow becomes Captain without changing her behavior?? People talk about Kirk being a maverick but that really didn't become a thing until the movies and by that point I'm sure his reputation would forgive a lot but Burnham's much more unhinged behavior was there from the start and should have resulted in her being in the brig most of the time if not drummed out of the service all together. Tilly was kind of fun but wasn't she promoted by Saru at one point even though she had shown no leadership qualities? And don't get me started on The Burn and the collapse of the Federation being caused by a child screaming. So, so bad... [/QUOTE]
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