So how did kobolds go from being dog-men to having dragon blood?
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Ankh-Morpork Guard
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Its all because of the evil plot to destroy the world...with Half-Illithid Kobolds. Bwahaha!
Chimera
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My guess would be that someone took a liking to Kobolds and wanted to play one as a character.
IMC, Kobolds are reptillian and lay eggs, while having the lifespan of a dog. Mature at about one year, "ancient" at about 8 years old. As such, they're kind of the rabbits (as in "plague of") of D&D monsters; a fast breeding menace.
IMC, Kobolds are reptillian and lay eggs, while having the lifespan of a dog. Mature at about one year, "ancient" at about 8 years old. As such, they're kind of the rabbits (as in "plague of") of D&D monsters; a fast breeding menace.
Ao the Overkitty
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They were once dogmen? Maybe I'm completely off base here, but weren't mongrelmen the dogmen?Krug said:
Aaron L
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It's because they have scales. From what Col_Pladoh has said, a misunderstanding on the part of the the illustrator had them drawn with scales, which subsequent people took to heart and made them lizardlike, and finally draconic.
I combine doglike and draconic characteristics in my kobolds. Little yappy humanoid dragondogs. Who are good at mining; mythological kobolds were Germanic mine monsters. They wore overalls too!
I combine doglike and draconic characteristics in my kobolds. Little yappy humanoid dragondogs. Who are good at mining; mythological kobolds were Germanic mine monsters. They wore overalls too!
Gez
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From what I remember of previous discussions on that topic, the D&D kobolds typology history is about as such:
1e: Reptilian
2e: Doglike ("there's more than enough reptilian humanoids anyway!")
3e: Reptilian again ("back to the source!")
When you see a change from 2e to 3e, don't assume it's necessarily a novely. It is, quite often, the unmaking of a change. Like, say, "half-orcs as a PC race", or "yes, there's demons and devils in the MM".
1e: Reptilian
2e: Doglike ("there's more than enough reptilian humanoids anyway!")
3e: Reptilian again ("back to the source!")
When you see a change from 2e to 3e, don't assume it's necessarily a novely. It is, quite often, the unmaking of a change. Like, say, "half-orcs as a PC race", or "yes, there's demons and devils in the MM".
BiggusGeekus
That's Latin for "cool"
If I remember correctly ....
Part of the 3.0 design was to have the main humanoid races correspond with a character class. Orcs got stuck with barbarian (mistakenly, IMHO) Gnolls got ranger and Kobolds got sorcerer.
In the 3.0 playtesting sorcerers originally didn't have their powers come from dragon heritage. In playtest one of the groups asked where their powers came from. The 3.0 team threw that bit in about dragons and the sorcerer class has been stuck with it ever since.
Part of the 3.0 design was to have the main humanoid races correspond with a character class. Orcs got stuck with barbarian (mistakenly, IMHO) Gnolls got ranger and Kobolds got sorcerer.
In the 3.0 playtesting sorcerers originally didn't have their powers come from dragon heritage. In playtest one of the groups asked where their powers came from. The 3.0 team threw that bit in about dragons and the sorcerer class has been stuck with it ever since.
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